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Are you buying a poppy this year?

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JessM Wed 06-Nov-13 18:14:06

I've noticed that instead of my usual feeling that I am happy to buy a poppy and wear one, this year I am reluctant. I believe this is because, in recent years, we have had a growth in militarism in this country and I am reacting against it.
Also, rationally, if we can afford as a country to run armed forces then should we not also afford to look after those who have been injured while serving?
Can anyone persuade me to buy one?

need2search Sat 09-Nov-13 14:15:46

Nigglynellie, I would love to be cynical and say that poem is just mushy sentimentalism. But I can't. Because it is true of so many young men, and the mothers they left behind. sad

[much needed, IMO, poppy emoticon]

Lona Sat 09-Nov-13 14:19:10

It brought a tear to my eye, and there is nothing wrong with being sentimental sometimes.

Yes, a poppy emo would be good.

ffinnochio Sat 09-Nov-13 14:53:33

No, I'm not buying nor wearing a red poppy this year. I would wear a white poppy of peace if I could find one here.

grannyactivist Sat 09-Nov-13 16:10:43

Our local Methodist church has the two boxes, for red and white poppies, side by side. I don't see the two as mutually exclusive, but as two sides of the same coin. The British Legion uses the red poppy as a fundraising tool in Britain; the money raised equips their tireless employees and volunteers to support people in need in very many ways - without their particular knowledge and expertise many people would struggle.

In 1933 the Women’s Co-operative Guild introduced the White Poppy; their intention was to remember the war dead (as with the red poppy), but with the added meaning of a hope for the end of all wars.

As such I am happy to wear both a red and a white poppy - although I now prefer to save my white poppy to wear on September 21st - the International World Day of Peace.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 09-Nov-13 16:19:57

Thank you, JessM, for your post of yesterday at 10.39 about "glorifying being killed in a war". You have a gift for saying what I am thinking but am unable to put nearly as clearly as you can!

While I am happy, and indeed proud, to wear a poppy, I am too young (born in 1951) to remember anyone who died in a world war. What I do remember is the fact that my father fought in the Far East and saw things that he could never tell us about when we were little, but could start to tell his DGC about. He had nightmares regularly well after I was born. I remember bomb sites when I was growing up and thinking about the suffering that they represented. I remember my father's talking about the school teachers he had at who had one leg, or one arm, or unpredictable behaviour. I remember the school teachers I had who had never had the opportunity to marry, as there were no men available, and so spent their lives in using their considerable brain power to teach, rather than, as would then have been the case, staying at home. Good for their pupils of course, but they might have preferred to have a choice.

I also regret that i never met my paternal grandmother who had a husband away in WWI and two sons away in WWII. Although they all came back relatively unharmed, the worry must have taken its toll on her, and she died in 1948.

It seems to me to be quite disgraceful that, after all we have learned about the effect of conflict on survivors, that we have to expect charities to look after them and their families even now. The Royal British Legion does good work, but it should be part of the MoD remit and budget to do it, I think.

need2search Sat 09-Nov-13 16:26:03

Does any profit from the sale of the white poppies go to a worthwhile charity? Just wondered if anyone knew?

grannyactivist Sat 09-Nov-13 16:53:17

need2 the financial accounts of the PPU are in their annual report: click here.

need2search Sat 09-Nov-13 19:28:12

Thank you grannyactivist.

Eloethan Sun 10-Nov-13 00:24:07

I think that manufacturing cars and manufacturing weapons are two completely different things. The whole purpose of a weapon is to kill or injure someone - though a car can injure or kill, that is not its purpose.

For arms manufacturers, wars are necessary in order for them to make a profit. The UK relies very heavily on the arms industry to improve its export figures, and politicians are quite happy for this to continue.