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divert foreign aid to flood-hit British families

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ninny Tue 11-Feb-14 09:39:04

ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556043/Sign-petition-calling-Government-divert-foreign-aid-flood-hit-British-families.html

I have signed this petition, will you?

durhamjen Thu 13-Feb-14 23:52:15

Samcam's dad was lucky enough to be born into a rich family. He is a baronet, and was born into a family with land. Nothing to do with brains.
Cameron now discourages the idea of windfarms, knowing that his family gets money from the government for windfarms. That's nothing to do with brains either.

Galen Thu 13-Feb-14 23:22:28

Socrates comes to mind. Or was it Aristotle ?
moon

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 23:18:59

There could be an 'e' in potatos/oes

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 23:17:51

How do I know if I read the same things as you do??? (see previous comment)

And what the - ditto - has Samcam's dad got to do with the price of potatos?! Or fish.

moon

durhamjen Thu 13-Feb-14 23:10:02

You did not answer my question, Jingle. You asked me to ask you directly, which I did. There's no need to swear because I did as you asked.
Are you watching Question Time?
Samcam's dad is given half a million pounds a year in subsidies for two windfarms in North Lincolnshire.

Galen Thu 13-Feb-14 23:06:36

I'm the Torygraph (but mainly for the cryptic crossword)

Galen Thu 13-Feb-14 23:05:49

The Gurniad?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 22:57:04

Well, I can guess.

Ana Thu 13-Feb-14 22:55:23

Of course you know, jingl wink

Galen Thu 13-Feb-14 22:49:35

Even shock

Galen Thu 13-Feb-14 22:49:12

blush language Eglantine,[shovk]

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 22:43:41

And I don't know what the fuck you read.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 22:42:44

I've answered your question.

durhamjen Thu 13-Feb-14 22:41:22

Do you read the same things as the rest of us, Jingle? I am particularly thinking about the fact that Cameron's money came from his dad running a business to cheat the taxman by setting up offshore funds. Osborne's money came from his dad's wallpaper business. Neither of them are renowned for their work ethic or brains.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 22:40:58

Most people who reach the top of their chosen profession do so through hard work. And if that profession is at all cerebral, then a good brain would surely help.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 22:38:10

Would you like to ask "Jingle" directly jendurham?

Feel free.

Ana Thu 13-Feb-14 22:36:06

What about Miliband and Balls? hmm

durhamjen Thu 13-Feb-14 22:32:20

I agree with you, Absent, about MPs and ministers.
Does Jingle not read the same things that the rest of us do?
Since when did Cameron and Osborne get where they are because of brains and a good work ethic?

Ariadne Thu 13-Feb-14 20:12:08

absent Agreed!

I thought you had left this thread, nigglynellie. Obviously you had more to say.

I have no more to add.

margaretm74 Thu 13-Feb-14 20:04:15

And often people who are not really well off are quietly helping.

thatbags Thu 13-Feb-14 19:58:46

margaret, I was thinking the same thing about Jen's mum. You put the thought into words nicely.

absent Thu 13-Feb-14 19:37:47

jingl It's one of those sayings – as soon as someone mentions Nazis in the context of a general conversation, rational debate ceases. Actually, once the subject here turned to the idea that overseas aid is a result of colonial guilt, ratiocination didn't seem to be its guiding feature.

As far as rich MPs and ministers go, it helps if your parents (and parents' parents) are stinking rich to start off with – otherwise you can always have half a dozen company directorships on the side which, of course, would never constitute conflict of interest. Oh and, of course, there are those with offshore hedge funds and non-taxable trusts …

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 19:09:34

It's wrong that ministers are always wealthy individuals. They are most likely successful financially because they are lucky enough to have good brains, and perhaps a good work ethic. And that is why and how they make it to the top politically.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 13-Feb-14 19:05:17

absent confused Why?

I feel sure there is still a lot of guilt being felt by today's ordinary, decent, Germans.

What has overseas aid got to do with guilt? I thought we realised that the government gives for political reasons, and the rest of us give from compassion. I don't actually believe that there is no compassion involved with the government.

absent Thu 13-Feb-14 18:39:55

Someone's mentioned Nazis – end of conversation.