Max Clifford

Having just read through the judge's findings, I now feel more than slightly nauseated.

penstemonn I agree. The blame lies with Cklifford. But at 14 she was old enough to use some commonsense. And I still think her parents have a lot to answer for.

[Notso] I have just read your link . What a dreadful man. OK the crimes were committed a long time ago but he deserves the sentence that he has got and much more. I think that if the judge had been able he would have given him a much longer sentence.

I don't think those girls were blameless. Not by a long chalk.

Quote: "When Clifford met a 15-year-old on holiday with her family in Spain, her parents encouraged her to pursue contact with him after being impressed by his name-dropping.

She said she was "blown away" when he told her she "could be the UK version" of Jodie Foster, and felt unable to say no when he asked her to take off her top and bra."

Really? Are we sure she just didn't want to see the pound signs fading away? And what kind of parents....

I think the original post on this thread says a lot about how the media have also felt.

Gosh jings, what a really neat solution! All we need is for 14 year olds to use some common sense and what? Adult criminal behaviour reduced?

Thank you for the link notso, I too feel revulsion for this horrible person.

I think these kind of things might not happen quite so often if teenagers put a bit of thought into looking after themselves - yes.

I have already said what I think of Max Clifford in this respect. I think it's ok to broaden the discussion a bit, don't you?

He was charged with (and convicted of) offences against women aged from 15 to 19 - where does the 14 year old come into it? [confusion]

19:28:56.......I can't think of a civilised response.

I definitely read about a fourteen year old. Probably mis-reported.

Oh, go ahead with an uncivillised one then.

Seems perfectly sensible to me. Celebrity chasing is a dangerous game.

sounds like they didn't get him for that one

I don't think you're repeated attempts to shock other members really counts as initiating "discussion" jinglebell

Repeated attempts?

I don't think I did try to shock anyone.

'ang on! this is the wrong thread! I don't think I've said much on this one.

Remarkable how jingle is more perceptive than a Crown Court judge. Isn't it?

And which bit does that relate to?

Mind you, if he had got a different judge on the day, he might have got a different sentence.

I watch Silk!

That is true , I think I read Rumpole !!

Just google the Crown Court Sentencing Guidelines and you will see that they have been applied fairly in this case.

Re- phrase that

That is true I read Rumpole !

Who the hell is Max Clifford? Never heard of him and wouldn't have known him from Adam. Clearly there are advantages to not reading "red tops" nor watching Slebs on telly. Glad he's being punished for his misdemeanours, whoever he is.

You could always Google, thatbags, even though you don't watch tv.
(or whatever search engine you have)