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What this country needs, and why the Tory's wont deliver.

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Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 15:19:44

Britain needs council housing, jobs, a good minimum wage, and a decent old age pension.

The Tory's wont deliver because they dont care about ordinary people.

Ariadne Mon 19-May-14 15:27:32

You have been here before, on the same tack, haven't you, Ivanhoe? Just remembered.

newist Mon 19-May-14 15:29:35

Ivanhoe why do I get the feeling the only reason you are posting is because you are a political activist trying to use GN for your own ends

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 15:38:01

But he/she won't come clean about which party message he/she is trying to get across.

I am surprised that GN is allowing such open canvassing - but perhaps they are as bewildered as I am at the message Ivanhoe is trying to get across. Perhaps all will become clear on Wednesday before we trot off to the ballot box on Thursday.

It just seems to be anti-Tory, which quite honestly could mean anything as we have 11 candidates in our neck of the woods, just for the European Parliament.

goldengirl Mon 19-May-14 15:47:25

Well all parties say they're going to do this, that and the other, but why don't they get in and DO it! They've had enough time to at least make a start - though quite on what I'm not sure as the goal posts seem to change with the wind. Surely 'enough lessons have been learned' by now. I'm not even sure I will be voting on Thursday. I'm not sure what I would be voting for. Leaflets are just not enough. And if candidates can't be bothered why should I?

Charleygirl Mon 19-May-14 16:00:51

I agree goldengirl. I have received leaflets from many parties, some I have not heard of but I have not seen a face at the door doing good old fashioned canvassing.

Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 16:13:49

The reason the ultra right wing since Thatcher have not built council houses, and putting builders to work, is because they dont believe in providing jobs for people.

The Tory's are right wing economists, they are not democratic socialists.

mcem Mon 19-May-14 16:14:16

In an attempt to take over, Ivanhoe wades in to yet another thread.
I'm keen to see how he'll hijack the quilting thread.
I may be missing some subtle political point but is there a reason that you always refer to Tory's instead of Tories ?

Aka Mon 19-May-14 17:08:16

mcem it is thought impolite to point out to posters their shortcomings re spelling or grammar, no matter how tempting.

Aka Mon 19-May-14 17:09:43

Newist if that is his reason for posting then it's having the opposite effect hmm

Aka Mon 19-May-14 17:10:59

mcem just saying

Ears, shoots and leaves!

Aka Mon 19-May-14 17:11:50

hmm

Eats, shoots and leaves! Not bloody ears!

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 17:46:50

Well, I was going to point it out mcem, but refrained from doing so except in a very subtle way along with another poster on another thread.
I have been very restrained!

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 17:59:45

Busy man, Ivanhoe! I see you have written newspaper articles and made several YouTube videos putting forward your political agenda as a candidate. Should you be using Gransnet for this purpose, though? Or at least tell us, so we can judge your comments in an informed way?

By the way, I do agree with much of what you have said in those articles and videos, so no axe to grind.

mcem Mon 19-May-14 18:10:31

Yes Aka I did pick up your point when you made it earlier but genuinely ended up wondering if it's some arcane way of making a point and an indicator to the initiated!
I would normally go along with the policy of polite non-correction but saw this as an exception.

Nelliemoser Mon 19-May-14 18:10:35

This is sounding like using GN for political campaigning!

Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 18:16:33

Whenim64, ""Should you be using Gransnet for this purpose, though? """"

No!

mcem Mon 19-May-14 18:16:34

Campaigning for what, Nellie? I've only seen instructions that we must not vote Tory and Labour's no better. So do you know what is the message he's trying to get across? I'm asking you cos others asked Ivanhoe but didn't get straight answers.

Galen Mon 19-May-14 18:32:22

Look at the IDS thread

Ana Mon 19-May-14 18:40:18

Perhaps you could share your insider knowledge with the rest of us, when? confused

Ana Mon 19-May-14 18:44:11

Oh, it's OK I've found him now, if it is indeed the same Ivanhoe.

mcem Mon 19-May-14 18:54:22

Thanks Galen. Having looked at the link I'm not much wiser. Am I right in thinking this is a one-trick pony job? No mention of education, housing, Europe etc etc. All I got was 'young people you'll be old one day'. Seriously, if I'm missing something significant, would Ivanhoe ( or someone who does get his message) please enlighten me? I need to be told how to vote on Thursday, in September and next year!

Ana Mon 19-May-14 19:02:04

He claims to be a 'political campaigner, but not in a party'. Just a general complainer then...? hmm

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 19:07:08

Misleading, if that's what's been said.

thompsonfortotnes.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2014-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=3

Ana Mon 19-May-14 19:12:11

Yep, it's him all right. That use of 'Tory's' is a dead giveaway...hmm