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What this country needs, and why the Tory's wont deliver.

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Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 15:19:44

Britain needs council housing, jobs, a good minimum wage, and a decent old age pension.

The Tory's wont deliver because they dont care about ordinary people.

Soutra Mon 19-May-14 19:16:15

I think what this country needs is a thriving economy and full employment so that lots of people can pay the taxes needed to fund all the benefits you quote.

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 19:17:54

Ivanhoe please don't mislead us, intentional or not. Be upfront about your work. There's no problem with sharing political views, but you have good reason to be checking out the views of Gransnetters as many of us are in the age range your political campaign addresses. Peace! smile

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 19:26:14

Are prospective candidates allowed to canvas on here? Albeit under a pseudonym? I still don't see the point of all his posts, as he was not advocating that we vote for any particular party (however, I did get a bit bored and didn't read them all properly). Rather it was just a hate-filled rant against the 'Tory's' (sic) and Margaret Thatcher who ceased to be Prime Minister in 1990. That is 24 years ago. Nearly a quarter of a century! Labour were in power for 13 years, surely long enough time to have started righting what they perceived as wrongs? Especially with all the money they gained from selling off all our gold reserves and stealing from our pensions.

He had nothing positive or constructive to say or suggest, rather just a whole lot of negatives which is NOT what Great Britain needs. We have enough people in power who are doing just that without more.

Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 19:48:09

Oh for gods sake get over yourselves. I am not standing for parliament.

rosequartz. "New" Labour 1997- 2010, embraced Thatcher's free market throughout their 13 years in Government.

What Gordon Brown did was a mistake and we all make them. What Thatcher did was rotten to the core. She reduced the State pension, stopped building council housing, and privatised our utilities.

And even if I was standing for parliament, the very last place I would blow my trumpet would be on this site.

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 20:06:41

Your blog says you are, Ivanhoe. How did that happen? Tell us - we're listening?

Penstemmon Mon 19-May-14 20:07:17

Ivanhoe which party, if any, do you think would deliver more public housing, good minimum wage and a decent OA pension?

mcem Mon 19-May-14 20:08:06

Totnes? Independent? Prospective candidate?

Ivanhoe Mon 19-May-14 20:14:15

Penstemmon , You clearly are not aware that "traditional" Labour is the party that has always looked after the elderly regarding State pensions provision, council housing, and minimum wages.

Ana Mon 19-May-14 20:19:16

Evading the issue/question again, Ivanhoe? You're an ideal political candidate!

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 20:26:26

Manifesto?

la65.forumotion.co.uk/t3-my-manifesto

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 20:37:16

That's me told!

Penstemmon Mon 19-May-14 20:38:29

Ivanhoe you could not be more wrong! You have obviously not spotted any of the posts where I have made my political values clear! I just wondered what your preferred party was, that's all.

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 20:40:12

A great way to win votes - professing to stand up for the rights of the elderly but abusing them verbally on a forum for older people! confused

Elegran Mon 19-May-14 20:43:59

So just WHICH PARTY are you positive about then, Ivanhoe ? We know all about the ones that you are negative about, ie any that we might name, and how it all goes back to your pet hate Margaret Thatcher, but who do you think SHOULD be running the country?

GadaboutGran Mon 19-May-14 20:50:49

The Ivanhoe party probably.

Aka Mon 19-May-14 20:51:23

Good point Rose but perhaps he's better at kissing babies...they don't answer back.

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 20:58:08

grin aka

Ivanhoe was the son of a Lord ....

rosequartz Mon 19-May-14 20:58:28

moon

POGS Mon 19-May-14 21:01:11

B---y hell just saw a link on another thread and now I find another.

This one sends me right back to my initial thought about you Ivanhoe.

You have nothing to bring to the table but diatribe and hatred of anybody who does not share your opinion.

You have taken the rise out of every poster who has not realised you 'were in it for yourself promotion' all along.

Take your comment on Bob Crow. You thought of him as a working mans saviour who took the moral high ground and did not buy his council house. To somebody else he was a champagne socialist who earned more than the Prime Minister and took a perfectly good council house away from a family who would have benefitted from having social housing for their family.

That is the type of selective hypocrisy that I cannot let go without saying I find this all now pure shallowness.

mcem Mon 19-May-14 21:12:48

Well it's now clear that we've disappointed Ivanhoe. Perhaps he expected to ride on to this site on his white charger and be greeted as saviour by lots of humble, submissive old ladies. He imagined we'd hang on his every word and we've had the temerity to argue. We should have fallen over our zimmer frames in the rush to embrace his wisdom but we've dared to contradict him. To quote back to him -
'Get over yourself!'
Pity that we may never know if he is or isn't a candidate for the general election but I'd look forward to his appearance on QT.

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 21:18:29

OK (rolls up sleeves).....are we ready for Nigel Farrage now? grin

Galen Mon 19-May-14 21:21:38

His manifesto says he promised his dead mum to stand as a parliamentary candidate!
Reckon Nigel's nom de plume could be pubbore

Elegran Mon 19-May-14 21:25:35

I'd say that his comment about the amount of political ignorance on gransnet was way off the mark. I have read more political awareness from everyone else than from him.

Ana Mon 19-May-14 21:25:50

Oh, he was on here last year spouting the same old...doesn't anyone except Ariadne and me remember?

He also says more than once that his mum died a long time ago - why has it taken him so long to use that money she left him to stand for parliament? He's 66 for goodness sake...hmm

whenim64 Mon 19-May-14 21:36:48

There's reams and reams of his rhetoric on GN over the last year or so. If he talks to the pensioners in his - ahem - campaign constituency like he's addressed Gnetters, he'll get short shrift there, too. Mustn't laugh! grin sorry......