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Redefining Obesity?

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HollyDaze Thu 12-Jun-14 09:13:31

Karsten Kaltoft, aDanish childminder, who weighed more than 25st at the time, was sacked by the council, Billund Kommune, because it deemed that he could not perform his duties due to his size, citing the fact that he required help from a colleague to tie up children's shoelaces.

Mr Kaltoft is taking legal action against his employers on the grounds of discrimination and is 'calling for employers across Europe to treat obesity as a disability'. If he is successful, this could bring about widespread changes to the way obese people are treated in the workplace. The UK courts have previously ruled that 'obesity itself has been rejected as a disability in its own right'. However, if the European court reaches a finds in favour of Mr Kaltoft, the Equality Act would need to be amended.

The USA have already addressed this concern: several recent cases have resulted in dismissed workers successfully claiming they were discriminated against for being obese. In one case, a worker in Texas who weighed more than 305kg (48st) received $55,000 (£32,800) in compensation for losing his job.

I remember seeing a report on addictive behaviours where brain scan mapping had been used to try and understand addiction. From what I can recall, there is an area of the brain that allows us to self-regulate; in some people, that area is either not fully functional or is damaged and this, according to the report, is why some people can stop a certain activity and others find it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

Would Mr Kaltoft's employers have made the same citation to a wheelchair-bound person? Or a person suffering from vertigo that found it problematic to bend down?

Do you feel that Mr Kaltoft has a legitimate cause for complaint?

Would this be a good change to the discrimination laws or do you feel that it will be used as an excuse?

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/10/danish-childminder-discrimination-case-obesity-disability-eu-states

MargaretX Sun 15-Jun-14 19:49:56

I was surprised - not living in the Uk - that obesity is considered a disabilty and obese people can park on disabilty parking spaces. This is not so in Germany. These spaces are only for people with amputations or with MS.

Being so fat must be miserable and having the feeling that you should be excercising makes it worse. There have been no research which proves that exercising can make you lose weight only that it relieves your pocket of money which wanders into the pockets of fitness studio owners.

I read that some become addicted to anything and others can control themselves. It seems there is a bit of the brain which has a controlling function and in some people this is underdeveloped.
Howevere if you look at Newsreels from the 50s then everyone was slim so it must be more avalable food and less activity that puts the weight on.

Aka Sun 15-Jun-14 20:04:21

Now there's a thought! hmm

rosesarered Sun 15-Jun-14 20:20:01

HollyDaze did you really say that to the consultant , it's hilarious.grin
All GP's seem to say that to everyone now as well.It's true that some people have more will-power than others, but we have to have self control sometimes, and not be indulgent.MargaretX your post is spot on.
Excercise will help, but eating less is more important.

HollyDaze Sun 15-Jun-14 21:06:41

rosesarered yes, I really did. I'm generally polite to a fault but if I feel someone is being unfair or rude, and I'm not in the mood to put up with it, then I will tell them. I was raised with the mantra that no-one is superior or inferior to me, we are all cogs in the same machine - therefore, I tend not to feel in awe (or intimidated by the employment status) of other people. The last consultant I saw said much the same thing to me (but to be fair, since my hip damage, I have put weight on) but again, he was no lightweight himself - that retort was 'says you who can't pull your chair any closer to your desk'. My son warns me that I'll find myself at the bottom of every list going!

Ana Sun 15-Jun-14 21:34:03

grin HollyDaze!

I do think you've been very lucky that the consultants you've challenged have taken it well - some of those I've come in contact with would have come back with a very scathing retort, although the younger ones don't seem to take themselves quite so seriously!

HollyDaze Sun 15-Jun-14 21:55:52

To be honest Ana, it surprises me that they don't retaliate - they're probably thinking 'cantankerous, silly old sod' grin

Mind you, both of them would have been roughly about the same ages that I was on both occasions. I agree with you - I find the younger consultants are a lot more tactful and show more respect; the older ones can be a bit rude.