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21 beheaded by IS

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POGS Mon 16-Feb-15 10:12:46

Last night we heard of the beheading of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by IS.

Now Egypt are bombing IS in Libya.

Is this the reaction IS has wanted or is it a rise from another Arab country that will gain momentum for Arab nations to do more in attacking IS. They need to IMHO.

Things are ramping up everywhere and it is all very worrying isn't it.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 16-Feb-15 22:16:17

Yes mishap. It's the grandchildren we worry about isn't it.

Mishap Mon 16-Feb-15 22:17:24

We cannot not know these things in our current world - head in the sand is very tempting, but not realistic.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 16-Feb-15 22:17:54

and there have always been young men killed in the wars soon.

Anya Mon 16-Feb-15 22:51:09

Jingl it's interference well before 9/11 I mean. But re that failed child suicide bomber. I was crying with him. Poor misguided child, for that's all he was.

thatbags Tue 17-Feb-15 10:11:34

This is a good article: what do all acts of terrorism have in common?

Mishap Tue 17-Feb-15 11:02:50

A good article indeed and gets to the nub of things. Whenever anyone says that a religion is behind an act of terrorism, believers jump up and down and talk about communism and fascism and the ills perpetrated in their name, as if that lets religion off the hook! The common factor, as this article points out, is blind faith, whether secular or religious.

As soon as we switch off our minds and stop asking and seeking, we run the risk of falling into this fundamentalist trap.

Most Christians amongst my friends are happy to admit that their faith is not blind; that more questions are left to be asked than answered, and I can deal with that. But blind faith to a tract, whether it be religious or political is indeed a dangerous thing.

As I have said several times, the danger with religion is that it deals in fundamentals (Why are we here? What are we meant to be doing with our lives? What happens when we die?) so, if it consists of blind faith, it has a natural tendency towards the sort of fundamentalism that we see being played out around the world.

Daisyanswerdo Tue 17-Feb-15 14:15:22

They believe that killing any who they see as 'non-believers' will result in martyrdom and Paradise. Religion has a lot to answer for.

soontobe Tue 17-Feb-15 17:01:29

Some things in that article are right.
And some are wrong.

What matters is what the person believes. Are they believing in peace. Or hate?

Mishap Tue 17-Feb-15 17:12:17

Which things in it were wrong soon?

soontobe Tue 17-Feb-15 18:47:11

Not sure that I am keen to disagree with about 7 different things in there.

I will do it at the weekend.

Iam64 Tue 17-Feb-15 19:07:06

Thanks to thatbags and mishap for their posts. I enjoyed the article and like others, feel it got it right.

Iam64 Tue 17-Feb-15 19:07:54

sorry, I meant got it right in the comparisons between any 'blind' faith or unquestioning belief in an ideology.

soontobe Sat 21-Feb-15 18:28:05

The article does not differentiate between what is belived. And that is crucial.

soontobe Sat 21-Feb-15 18:31:45

Is it right to bring up this thread again, because of its subject matter? It doesnt feel quite right. Perhaps it is better left. I think I will leave it.