7-Way Debate Tonight

Oh, so the answer is to vote Labour - now there's a surprise, durhamjen!

OMG! I've de-railed the effing thread!

I've gone!

I have reported the post re booze/medication 23:20:07. I think it is a diabolical thing to suggest, and it should be removed.

Well, some people were saying, Ana. However, as I've said lots of times before, I haven't voted Labour since Blair came in, just for the record.
I have, however, just found out yesterday that my constituency has a 99% chance of getting a Labour MP, so I'm quite safe voting green if I want to. No way could a Tory or kipper get in here.
In fact I do not know if a kipper is standing here.

Did you report the earlier one about booze, jingl? Soon does seem to forget quite quickly what she has said.
Can you actually tell me what her comment about films has to do with anything? Or can she?

Fair do's re the dictionary, Ana my mistake, I thought most people who have had children would have a dictionary lurking somewhere but I admit to using Google much more theses days despite at least 3 heavy OED/CODs. Just wanted to say it is no big deal to see the difference between the two.

Elegran has explained it very clearly so there should be no confusion unless Jingl still can't see it, in which case., WTH does it matter?
I find it hard to know whether to respond to non sequiturs , does one take them at face value, or ignore?
Anyway, it seems Nicola has a few supporters on GN, alas it is too late to try to vote in my old constituency of Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles, which in any case has had its boundaries redrawn since my day.

This didn't get mentioned by any of them last night, apart from Nicola Sturgeon.

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/03/basic-nhs-services-could-be-charged-for-after-general-election-bma-chief-says

I'm With Nan on this one, its an nhs system for people who live & work in this country.

So all those Brits who are living and working abroad had better not try and sneak back in when they are ill, pretending they've been here all along.
And all those doctors who have just arrived here to help out the NHS had better not need it for the next five years if Cameron gets back in.

www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2015/apr/03/do-foreigners-come-to-uk-to-get-hiv-treatment

NHS is the clue, we need to make sure it doesn't go under,as it seems it's in danger of doing so.

All we have to do is get the tax that should be paid. There will be no £30 billion black hole if that is done.

Ana. It means that I can choose what to google, just like anyone can.
See, at the moment there is no one around so I will have to look up what non sequiturs means.
But I dont have much time so that will have to be left.

dj - you too dont seem to understand me. You also havent answered my questions. So I think I shall choose not to read more of your links. I used to read some for my benefit, and some purely out of deference to you, if that is the right word. But I shall not now.

Do threads end up being about me because everyone on here seems to have been on gransnet for years, and so you all know everything about each other?

jingl - thanks for your concern.

Since people since to genuinely want toknow for some obscure reason. I drink moderately, about 8 units a week and not more than 3? at a time. I have never been drunk. I have not tasted most of the different sorts of alchohol.

I am not on any medication. I have not been on any regular medication since my 3 months of pills for clinical depression in 1997. Is that what people are getting at?

Eh, look at this soon. From Wiki. "Non sequitur (Latin for "it does not follow"), in formal logic, is an argument in which its conclusion does not follow from its premises. In a non sequitur, the conclusion could be either true or false, but the argument is fallacious because there is a disconnection between the premise and the conclusion." Got it? Buggered if I have.

I have lived for seventythree years without knowing, or caring, what non sequitors means. I won't waste brain power on it now.

See! I can't even spell it.

jings These forums are full of non sequiturs. Posts follow one another chronologically, but not logically. Some people get confused and assume that one statement is based on the one before, which does lead to some epic misunderstandings.

My post with the definition of in thrall and enthralled included "enthralled has more delight, and in thrall has more subjugation". A member of a super-strict and repressive religious sect might be in thrall to the doctrine, but not necessarily enthralled by it. (however, a masochist might be both in thrall to a sadistic partner and enthralled by the experience)

Elegran You've not been reading 50 Shades have you?

It doesn't appeal to me, Jane - I don't think I would be enthralled by reading it.

May I put the record straight regarding POGS claim that Gordon Brown often spoke of the death of his daughter. This is not true .

Jennifer died December 2001, Brown first spoke openly of the loss of Jennifer during an interview on a train during the general election 2010.

Compare this with Cameron who mailed Tory party members across the country telling of his loss and his suffering before the child was buried

Thank you

Yes Elegran. This morning, with a slightly refreshed brain, I do know exactly what the difference between enthrall and in thrall to, is.

Having just come to this thread this morning I would just like to say that comments asking if someone has been on meds or booze are uncalled for and unkind.
If someone is struggling to get their thoughts down for whatever reason (may be a slow typist, may not have a PhD, may be trying to make sense of all that the squabbling politicians throw at us in order to work out which way to vote) that is no reason for that sort of comment.

We have three heavy dictionaries on the shelf (plus foreign language and medical ones) but my first port of call is google which is on the pc that I am using. Seems logical.

I am glad I decided to retire to 'the shelf' on this thread.
Happy Easter.

I think it was lighthearted rosequartz and should be seen as such!

However, my thoughts on Google v. the OED are that it can easier to flick through a dictionary while not "coming out of " whatever I am writing on my iPad. Let's not make an issue out which is "better" - Wikipedia or the OED!!
Maybe a touch of sarcasm in the reference to the PhD? Or veiled criticism in the reference to typing?
Whatever.

It didn't sound lighthearted in the context of the other posts, and it didn't sound as if it was taken as such by the recipient.
But perhaps you are right, Soutra
Heyho! I won't fight other people's battles for them!

I will hop off to do some baking.
Much less contentious (is that the correct word, must check

None whatsoever re the typing, and perhaps a slight dig at all those highly educated Gnetters who, dare I say it, sometimes come across as a bit condescending to us lesser mortals who do not have PhDs etc.

But perhaps I dare not say that.