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whitewave Sun 19-Apr-15 16:24:17

Just saw an advert relating to the migrants drowning in the Med. and a picture of someone carrying a baby - all you could see were two little feet in a pink baby grow and the rest of the baby was covered in a blanket she was obviously drowned. I cried.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 20:26:08

The reason Christianity was brought into it is because Farage said this morning that we should only take Christians. He's the abomination, as usual.

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 20:29:08

So it was actually you who introduced the topic, durhamjen!

No one else was remotely interested in what NF had or had not said until you posted that link.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 20:32:15

Perhaps you should have been!

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 20:55:54

Why?

Isn't the present situation sad enough without stirring politics into the mix, as you seem determined to do on the slightest pretext?

absent Wed 22-Apr-15 21:10:37

Ana Surely any solution to this awful situation, which will clearly repeat itself over and over again, will be political – and that is what many of the posters here have been discussing.

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 21:15:57

I hardly think posting links to something Nigel Farage has said is helpful, absent. He's not likely to be part of the 'solution'.

rosesarered Wed 22-Apr-15 21:35:57

Hopefully the terrible dangers involved in this sea crossing will do a lot to put others off the journey in future.As Mishap says in her post, it's not the very poorest quite often that are attempting this journey ( it costs a lot, even with overcrowding on the boats) and with this latest tragedy, they murdered fellow passengers by throwing them overboard, based on their religion.As always, it's the innocent children who suffer.I don't know what the answer is,
But their own countries have to do more to stop them going to sea.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 21:51:51

Nigel Farage is likely to get 15% of the vote in two weeks time. That means
15% of those who vote think like him. It makes me feel ashamed. Because of saying things like this, and it being pointed out, hopefully some people might think again.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 21:54:59

Was the fact that Cameron decided we should stop helping the Italians who take most of the problems in this situation not political, Ana?

merlotgran Wed 22-Apr-15 21:58:26

I'm not sure that people will be put off making such a dangerous journey if more search and rescue boats are employed. It will just make them more confident of surviving such a perilous crossing.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 22:14:12

Even with the figures at the moment, it's 90% certain that they will reach Europe safely. So it will not stop them coming. Are you actually implying that 10% of them drowning is acceptable, merlot?

Ana Wed 22-Apr-15 22:16:44

Why on earth would you feel ashamed because 15% of voters don't think like you, durhamjen? Do get off your soapbox and talk normally for once.

merlotgran Wed 22-Apr-15 22:17:09

No.

absent Wed 22-Apr-15 22:22:26

A spokesperson for Save the Children has just said that they calculate 2,500 children will die in this way this year if the Brussels talking shop does't come up with some practical help.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 22:27:14

I suppose Farage has got a point - Christians haven't got anywhere else but Europe to go.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 22:28:28

I am ashamed because a lot of people in this country think that it's okay for us to accept Christian migrants, but not other religions in this country, Ana.
If that's a soapbox, I'll stay on it, if it's okay with you.
Hopefully the other 85% of voters do not agree with him.
However, I still feel ashamed of the 15%. That's a lot of people.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 22:32:10

I had my hair cut on Monday. The hairdresser said if they drowned it would stop others coming here. It was because the radio was on and there was a report on the radio.
I was horrified and argued with her. Not sure if I want her to cut my hair again.

merlotgran Wed 22-Apr-15 22:34:34

She probably hopes you never make another appointment, durhamjen

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 22:36:14

It's just the fact that Muslims have other countries they might be able to go to. Christians have less and less places all the time. It's a sad fact. It's nothing to do with religion, not as a policy. It's commonsense perhaps.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 22:38:20

We can't take everyone who wants to leave Africa. We can't even manage to take all the ones who need to leave. There has to be some rationing over the years.

But letting them drown is not the way.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 22:39:16

I think durhamjen was right to argue with that hairdresser.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 22:39:16

You're probably right, merlot. I was the one who actually changed the subject, and started talking about my grandson who was sitting there reading a book. I think she was having a bad day anyway, as she scowled when I walked in two minutes late.

durhamjen Wed 22-Apr-15 22:42:28

My eldest son taught at a Christian Brothers school. A few years ago the Brothers all moved to Sierra Leone, and set up a school for street children in Freetown. I am sure they will not think it acceptable to only have Christian migrants taken in by this country.

merlotgran Wed 22-Apr-15 22:43:48

But is arguing going to change the hairdresser's attitude?

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Apr-15 22:44:26

Are you sure they wouldn't understand? Not once they realise the reasoning behind it?