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Labour Manifesto for women - unpaid leave for grandparents

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ninathenana Mon 27-Apr-15 15:38:19

grin

Elegran Mon 27-Apr-15 15:08:26

hmm Free plaster on broken legs is unfair to those whose legs are not broken. Be careful what you envy. It may happen to you.

durhamjen Mon 27-Apr-15 14:31:11

"bit unfair to those without GCs"
Really, mollie? What do you call a grandparent without grandchildren? Obviously does not apply to them. I do not understand your point.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 14:29:36

Mollie being disingrnous won't wash with me. You posted 'really shock and just wanted to dis the idea . The comment about uncles, aunts etc was not vey helpful was it? Childcare is an important issue that affects many many families with children . This is a proposal for consultation that might help some families in some situations. I can think of some examples - child is really ill, mother could take a week off unpaid but the work situation is such that it would cause problems. So gp takes week off unpaid and daughter reimburses gp. It would be completely up to families if they wanted to use it - the total amount of leave would be the same. Anyone would think that families would be forced to use it! Are you saying that you don't want any proposals along these lines because the current arrangements are absolutely fine? And fyi I do not and never have assumed that all Labour proposals are fine. Most of them are nowhere near left wing enough for me. And what on earth do you mean ' not allowed to voice an opinion?'. You voiced an opinion, I critiqued it - perhaps you could tell me what I dhould have done? Oh yes, I get it, I should not have voiced an opinion - confused

mollie65 Mon 27-Apr-15 13:54:43

mumsnet thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2365179-Grandparents-leave-nice-idea-or-unwelcome-pressure-to-do-unpaid-childcare?
they seem to have grasped the problems with it even if some gransnetters haven't - they speak a lot of sense

mollie65 Mon 27-Apr-15 13:48:26

G2 - that was a bit uncalled for
I was merely pointing out the inconsistencies and pitfalls that may have been ignored
would daughters/sons be keen on 4 weeks of grandparents involvement.
'But of course any idea proposed by Labour which as we know must be inherently and intrinsically right' according to you
am I not allowed to voice an opinion - this is as bad as mumsnet sometimes.

Iam64 Mon 27-Apr-15 10:50:57

Go GrannyTwice smile

Eloethan Mon 27-Apr-15 10:15:20

GrannyTwice smile

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 09:38:19

And btw the proposal in the manifesto is underpinned by a consultation exercises which clearly would include the issue of one gp having more than one gc in any one year.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 09:31:05

But of course not any idea proposed by Labour which as we know must be inherently and intrinsically wrong

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 09:29:47

1. It's quite quite clear it applies to grandparents not just grandmas
2. The proposal is to allow working parents and the grandparents to share out any existing allowance of unpaid parental leave that is allowed
3. The issue of who can afford to take unpaid leave will be for families to sort out between themselves
4. It is unfair to those without grandchildren in exactly the same way as the existing scheme for unpaid parental leave is unfair to people without children confused
What exactly are you shock about mollie? I would have thought any gps would welcome any flexibility introduced into child care that recognises their role?

mollie65 Mon 27-Apr-15 09:10:16

another thought
if you have say grandchildren born in one year - where is the GPs leave to be allocated
bit unfair to those without GCs

mollie65 Mon 27-Apr-15 09:01:07

forgot to add link
www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32322677

mollie65 Mon 27-Apr-15 09:00:17

really shock
is this only applicable to grandmas?
what about aunts and uncles, siblings, greatgrandmas even
yes it is unpaid - but can working grandparents afford time off without pay
what about small businesses having to cover?