Some promises made in Tory manifesto

Don't make me laugh whitewave..

Yes well,but hose nasty foxes do horrible things to chickens. We shall just have to bear up. (If it happens. Has he not heard of acid on car bonnets?)

jingl You wouldn't!!!!!!!

Shhh!

I imagine that some of the money will come from pushing sick people off long term benefits and onto back to work benefits.

7 day access to GPs! - first find your GPs!!

I would like to know, from those who voted for the government, how you would save £12 billion in welfare cuts. That was another promise, but Iain Duncan Smith could not answer it when asked by Andrew Neill on the welfare debate last week.
So please tell us what cuts you voted for, remembering you have to save £10 billion more than the government has costed. No putting up taxes to fund it either.

Same with the NHS. They say they will give £8 billion to the NHS, but it has to save £22 billion in efficiency cuts, having had to save £20 billion over the last parliament.

I didnt vote tory but I will try and give you an answer.

I heard[cant remember where at all] that apparently, the tory mps dont know themselves where the £12 billion will come from, so I dont know that gransnetters will be able to answer you.

In answer to your question durhamjen, I would redirect SOME of the money from our foreign aid budget to the needy in this country, I believe we now contribute something in the order of 9 billion and have overtaken Germany to become second only to the United States as far as foreign aid contributions are concerned. I know we are a rich country ranked about 6th?, but I question whether we should be giving aid to a country that now has space programme. That's not to say that I don't think we should give foreign aid, I DO, but we should prioritise the needs of our own citizens first.

Secondly, I would also question why public servants such as hospital mangers who are paid out of the public purse receive the salaries they do. far more than the PM, and get enormous pay offs when their contracts come to an end only to be re employed at another trust with a similar salary.

I would also question the amount of money we pay our Euro MPs, expenses and the like and our overall contribution to European Union which I believe was increased substantially. Given we are supposed to be living in the age of austerity, frugality is not the prevailing image that is projected from Brussels and Strausberg.

I know several GNs have given examples of specific hardships suffered under the coalition, and whilst I'm sure they are accurate and true, a new member has just posted about hardships she and her family suffered under the previous Labour government which only goes to prove whichever party is in power there are always going to be people who are not treated fairly.

I told you myself that IDS, who is in charge of welfare, does not know where the money is to be saved, which benefits he is going to cut, soon. So all you have done is tell me what I told you, which is no answer.

Terribull, that is no answer either. The Tory manifesto says that they are going to cut £12 billion from welfare. None of your cuts are from the welfare budget. They are not going to redirect money from any budget to help the needy. They are going to cut money from the needy.

Welfare is housing benefit, disability benefits, money to top up their low pay, even pension tax credits for those who are just on the state pension and cannot afford to heat their homes.

Labour did not say they were going to cut £12 billion from the welfare bill. That's the difference. They were not going to cut money from those in poverty so that those earning £50,000 could pay less tax.

Well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? No point getting in a lather (again!) about how the government is proposing to save £12 million. George Osborne isn't going to be asking us how we'd do it...

No, but lots of people did actually vote for it, despite the fact that the government did not tell them what they would cut. We shouldn't have to wait and see. They accused Labour of having a magic money tree. Cutting money from the poor is their magic money tree.

When child tax credits get cut again, who will be getting in a lather? The hard working families who voted for him.

You don't know that's what will happen. You're just trying to stir things up for the sake of it.

I think that people are fearful. Even if they are ok, they may have vulnerable family members and friends.

Where I disagree,is the thinking that a Labour government makes everything ok.
It doesnt by a long way.

I actually think that the electorate, this time around, was partly swayed by job creation, and the economy. Not that a job is the answer to everything, but it can be a start for some.
If you want a full time job though, zero hours contracts may not be the way to go, if there are alternatives.

That's the problem. He isn't going to ask us. He's got a mandate now to do whatever he wants.

So we're stuck with

the bedroom tax and the ridiculously low housing allowance (£69 a week for a two bedroom house where I live)

and

the pressure on disabled and sick people to come off long term benefits and go onto return to work benefits with all the stress of ATOS/it's successor inquisitions and subsequent appeals to tribunals.

Then what about child benefit? They've mooted that they'll only pay it out on the first two or three children.

What will happen to pensioners free bus passes? They've already reduced the funding available and put the onus on the local councils to make up the shortfall.

Spending on Children's Mental Health has been reduced reorganised. Children from Hull who need residential care are sent to Sheffield. How does sending them 70 miles from home help their recovery?

I could go on but I'm sure you get my drift.

Well I can't see the problem with only paying child benefit for the first two or three children.

It wouldn't be stopped for those already claiming for more, but might make people think about the number of children they can actually afford to have.

What is so wrong in limiting the child benefit? When I had my first son ( in 1971) child benefit only applied to the second and subsequent children.

I expect they could have special rules for multiple births or pregnancies resulting from rape or contraception failure or domestic abuse. We could set up a special privately run agency that could hear appeals if you felt the child you had produced fell into any of those categories. It would probably make a jolly good TV series as well the profits from which could go to paying the agency for their appeal work.

What happens if your religion bans you from using contraception?

Break the 'rules'? Most Catholics in this country do already.

There is such a thing as abstinence, whitewave!

RCs who use contraceptives don't break the rules. When I was in the process of converting I told the priest that the one thing stopping me was the contraception rule as I couldn't afford to have more children even though I would have loved to. He said that it was a matter of conscience and if a woman could say in all honesty that her other children would suffer or her health would suffer then there was no reason why she couldn't prevent conception. This wasn't a young modern priest but an 80 year old monseigneur.

Same goes for abortion btw. DD1 did ethics as part of her RC theology A level. A woman can abort if the foetus is not viable or she is at risk of serious health problems or death.

Exactly, vampirequeen. The Tories are the only party which is going to keep the bedroom tax.
Anyone who voted for them thought that was okay.