Out of the EU? (just for fun)

Another two years of this!!! Howllll!!!!

I did not say they were horrid to her. What I said is that they talk about immigrants in front of her without realising she is one.
Would you like it if people talked about not wanting people like you here?
It's nothing to do with how nice the people are that you know. It's to do with the general perception of those who have been taken in by right wing propaganda about immigration. Too many of them here; we don't want immigrants here taking all our jobs.

I still don't understand why anyone would be horrid to her and her brother if he came. I worked with a Danish lady, she came over here many many years ago.
Perhaps I just know very nice people.

x posts rose, but the sentiment is the same.

But I expect you'll say 'why should they be forced to get married against their will just because This Government has the temerity to want to renegotiate terms with the EU?'

They will probably be treated the same as Commonwealth citizens are treated now, since we abandoned them in favour of the EU.

Does Natalie Bennett have dual nationality?

Right to a family life? What's that, GrannyTwice?
No, it applies criminals with a cat!
But decent, hardworking people such as djen is talking about may have more difficulty.
Why would anyone be nasty to a Danish man working in the UK? No-one I know.
I think that, even if were against my principles and better instincts, if my child was caught in a situation like that, I would marry the child's father so that the child could get nationality. I would put my child before me and my principles every time. But I cannot speak for what other people would do.
(If that is the reason the child cannot get a British passport. Apologies if I misunderstood, and yes, I think you explained it before djen but my memory is not what it was, blame overload.)

It's not going to happen, folks!

But it would solve the practical problems, wouldn't it? And stop your grandson from being worried about his mum being deported.

Getting married will not change the fact that she is an immigrant, jingl, and talked about as if she is not wanted here.
Getting married will not change her son's status, either. He's always been quite pleased at being a Viking. In primary school, it was a good talking point, and learning experience for other kids. It's only when he reaches 18 that he might have to choose.

"Oh, we don't mean you" sounds like a perfectly good response. She is obviously not simply an economic migrant.

'Just for fun' - It's in the title, Ana. Take that as you will.

Of course I missed you GrannyT! That is, I noticed you weren't here!

Right to a family life? What's that, GrannyTwice? Do you mean for rich people with big mansions and servants?

Hi Ana - I've been at work all day - just back in my hotel room. So you missed me?

He does hear things on the news and asks questions.Why do you think it's not very likely, Ana? That's quite insulting to him. He is autistic, and takes things literally.
Another question was, "Why don't they want us to stay here, Mummy?"
What would you say to that, jingl?

Even if someone who has been here for over twenty years can stay, it's whether they would want to, having listened to people slating immigrants all the time. She gets fed up of saying to people, "That's me you're talking about," to which the response is often, "Oh, we don't mean you. It's the others."

I wonder what the rules will be about the numbers voting in the referendum - ie will there have to be a minimum % of the registered electors voting and a minimum % of that voting to stay in?

And...she's back in the room!

Gosh - if only they weren't abolishing the HRA , people might have been able to stay under the 'right to a family life' - well there you go

I'm not sure anyone else thinks this thread is 'just for fun', FarNorth.

Or were you being sarcastic?

I thought it had stopped being a silly thread.

Take that as you will.

This is "just for fun" after all so don't worry your pretty little head about it, jingls.

But please don't bother to explain.

Again, I do not believe anyone with a settled family life here, and in decent employment etc. would be sent back.

I don't know how authoritative your link is ja.

I wouldn't be so sure, Jingl. This is aquote from the link I posted:
"EU citizens (and their family members) already in the UK: In practice, it is likely that the position of these individuals would be agreed during the negotiations for exit. If not, those who already possess the right to permanent residence might retain that status or be switched to indefinite leave to remain. Indefinite leave offers fewer protections against deportation than permanent residence and this would raise some interesting questions under both human rights (assuming the UK remained party to the Convention) and domestic law in the event of an attempt to deport. Those who had not yet met the conditions for permanent residence could, in theory, be required to qualify under domestic law or face removal."

And this is the conclusion:
"Those advocating the exit of the UK from the EU as a solution to unwanted intra-EU immigration do not seem to have grasped the unpalatable nature of the alternatives even in the terms of their own anti-immigration agenda. Maintaining the benefits of free access to Europe for UK citizens will almost certainly involve accepting inward movement from the entire EU on terms which are similar to those existing today but accompanied by the loss of influence that an exit implies. Alternatively, the UK can choose an isolationist position and apply domestic immigration controls to EU citizens. The price will be the loss of innumerable business, educational and cultural opportunities as movement from Europe becomes more difficult, and likely increased difficulties for UK citizens who may no longer take for granted their own privileged access to Europe for work, education, holidays or retirement."

The "just had lunch with my grandson and his mum" suggests a conversation.