Charles Kennedy

Strangely Jen I have always referred to myself as a weeble when life gets difficult as in "weebles wobble but they don't fall down". It has kept me going through some "interesting" times

Or weebles, if the fence is too painful.

That'll do nicely Gracesgran

Fence sitters anonymous iam64?

Very spooky Tegan.

I too am spartacus - whoops, I mean Gracesgran.

Shall we form a clique for people who are either, (a) flexible and willing to listen to all sides of an argument or (b) folks who can't make their minds up

....and I'm Gracie's gran . Spooky!!

Gosh Gracesgran..you could be describing me as well!

Should have added

I generally lean to the left, with the odd and sometimes surprising lean to the right and some time spent upright in a centrist position. I haven't found the clique yet either. Is it constantly left leaning or would they except a political pendulum weighted to the left?

annodomini

Eloethan, thanks for another excellent post

"For goodness sake", Grannyonce, Eloethan's post of 00.33.53 was mainly about Charles Kennedy.

Please do give us any opinions and views you have, whatever direction they happen to lean.

annodomini

the clique of 'left leaning gransnetters'. Could someone let me know who they are so that I can join them?

Mmmmmm - As well as Scot-land, perhaps there is also Ing-land and Wale-land, (although Britain is called Ing-land by some, of course)

No, I don't think I shall follow that road - there has been enough needling already, from both directions. I don't intend to add to it.

grannyonce I should probably heed Elegran 's words and ignore you, but your obvious attempts to create bad feeling prompt me to respond.

Please don't tell me that this thread is about Charles Kennedy. I am well aware of that and my first post said words to the effect that I was very sorry to hear of his death because I liked him a lot.

You, on the other hand, chose to focus on your irritation with Nicola Sturgeon - adding a linked article criticising Alex Salmond. You then went on to suggest that georgie1601, as a Scot, was being over sensitive to any criticism of Scottish politicians, and gave another link to an article criticising Alex Salmond. And as mcem remarked, why exactly do you refer to Scotland as "Scot-Land" - it sounds rather like a sneer to me?

Incidentally, I don't know how other women on Gransnet feel about being called "girls", but I find it a bit patronising - and I guess the male Gransnetters may not be too keen either.

John Cleese would be asking Grannyonce whether she is here for the five-minute argument or the half-hour one. I came out of this after about three minutes.

Debate shut down? Seems to be alive and kicking to me.

What on earth is presumptuous about Eleothan's view? Especially as she starts the sentence with "I think"! I've seen many people from the North of England calling on Facebook for a petition to move the border Southwards, and not all were joking!

I won't be signing though.

G1 Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon and the SMP are quite important, regardless of your political leanings, if you live in Scotland.

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the clique of 'left leaning gransnetters' who shut down any alternative views /debate
Please can I know who these are grannyonce I am more than "leaning" to the left and I have yet to find this "clique" although I have posted quite a few things. To my mind most of the GNs I come across are right of centre- some further than others.
Think leaning to the left is very appropriate given Charles Kennedy and his views which often veered that way.

Sorry that should be 'Scot-Land' with a capital L for a reason I cannot fathom.

Another request for clarification . Would you please explain why you wrote 'Scot-land' as you did?
I have never seen it written thus and assume there must be some reason behind it, though I can't work it out.

Yes, this thread is about Charles Kennedy G1 but after all the tributes have all been paid to him, both as a man and a politician, then it is not inappropriate for the thread to wander into a wider look at the political situation he faced in his last few weeks.

Or did you want to close down these wandering perhaps?

Yes, I too admire Nicola Sturgeon, especially her ability to get to the heart of the matter in debate and her refreshingly no nonsense replies to questions.

eloethan
very presumptuous to state
I think aside from Scottish people, there are quite a lot of English people (including me) who have a degree of admiration for both NS and the SNP.
for goodness sake this thread is about Charles Kennedy NOT
NS and the SNP
I found her 'irritating' with her constant hectoring about 'Scot-Land' and how important she thinks she and her party are.
I also find Ed Milliband and George Osborne 'irritating'
oh and the clique of 'left leaning gransnetters' who shut down any alternative views /debate