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Terror attacks in France and Tunisia/now

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POGS Fri 26-Jun-15 13:19:20

What a scary time we live in.

One man beheaded this morning in France, now at least 19 people killed in attacks on 'possibly' 2 hotels in Sousse, Tunisia. That is what is being reported at the moment, they are believed to be tourists.

It must be terrifying for those on holiday being told to barricade themselves in their rooms.

Just awful.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 20:22:23

It will be difficult for teachers, if not impossible, soon. They have enough to do at the moment.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 20:25:16

Why are you glad it's becoming the law, soontobe?

Anniebach Tue 30-Jun-15 20:26:37

Perhaps some children will be afraid to voice their fears or hopes, ask questions for fear of being reported to police, social services etc, and it will break trust which children is so important to children

soontobe Tue 30-Jun-15 20:40:16

Good point Anniebach.

I think that as with a lot of things, there are fors and against. [not sure that is the exact expression].

I hope they get good training.
I presume that it is if they have suspicions, that they tell someone. Rather than speak directly to the pupil.

Why am I glad?
If parents dont notice, if friends either dont notice, or are too scared to tell anyone, that only leaves teachers.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 20:41:32

The law comes in tomorrow, soon. Not much time for training.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 20:48:50

"I presume that it is if they have suspicions, that they tell someone. Rather than speak directly to the pupil."

Do you think that sort of thing is going to lead to good relations between teachers and pupils, soontobe?

Jane10 Tue 30-Jun-15 20:51:06

Its all our jobs to be alert to the possibility of children we know becoming radicalised. We are the new 'home front' in this unfortunate situation. We have lots to learn here. There's a lot at stake. I'm glad the govt is taking it seriously. Re this law -its not perfect but its a start and we have to start somewhere.

petra Tue 30-Jun-15 20:55:20

Would that be the same teachers that separate the boys from the girls in some schools? Or don't notice when young girls go missing for long periods of time, ie being sent abroad to be married or FGM.
OH yes, I can see that working.

POGS Tue 30-Jun-15 21:16:43

Shacria Law is practiced in the UK isn't it?

soontobe Tue 30-Jun-15 21:17:15

Teachers have to do their best. It isnt going to be perfect.

I am always of the opinion, that if there is a serious problem, then serious measures are needed.
Why complain about a problem, if you are not prepared to help solve it. What is the point?

I am quite concerned actually.
If we are not prepared to tackle it in our own back yard then what is going to happen?

This does not bode well at all.

I have a couple of times bumped a thread about twitter alerting potential terrorists to being watched, but hardly anyone appeared to think that that was inappropriate.

This problem is not going to go away anytime soon. Especially if British citizens are not prepared to deal with the situation.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 21:20:01

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Anybody interested in this?

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 21:20:30

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Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 21:21:13

Well, according to some on here there is no problem at all - it's all the fault of the British and our colonial past and we should just put up with it!

soontobe Tue 30-Jun-15 21:31:52

I need to pm you durhamjen.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 21:33:08

You don't have to advertise the fact soontobe. Just do it.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 21:35:17

Can't be doing with all this cloak-and-dagger stuff.

I'll leave you do it. hmm

soontobe Tue 30-Jun-15 21:38:12

Sorry.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 22:04:15

I do not understand your comment, Ana.
There are people on the site who wanted to know about any marches. In fact they were suggesting them.
If you do not want to, that's okay.
I thought I was supposed to be the sarcastic one.

What's cloak and dagger about soon saying she would pm me? Quite the reverse, I would say.

Did anyone else watch the programme on BBC4 by Dan Cruickshank, about IS destroying the Iraqi relics and why?

If we bomb Iraq, we are doing IS job for them.

Tegan Tue 30-Jun-15 22:09:38

I need to watch it on catchup as I only caught the end. The fact that IS are selling ancients artefacts to fund their war and destroying others so that the ones they sell are worth more is disgusting [not to mention two faced] sad.

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 22:11:36

Have you got something against the Humanist Association and St. John Ambulance, Ana?

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 22:16:02

I agree, Tegan. On the other hand, it's slightly better than destroying everything. Maybe they haven't worked that out yet.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:18:57

Have you got something against the Humanist Association and St. John Ambulance, Ana?

What on earth is that supposed to mean? Where have I said I have implied anything of the sort?

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:19:53

'said or implied'

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:22:02

BTW my post of 21.21 was not addressed to you, durhamjen but to soontobe. You are not the centre of my universe, although you seem to think that...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Jun-15 22:28:18

I think it's odd when people say on a thread that they are going to PM another poster. Sounds cliquey. Why not just do it? After all, it's going to be a private message. Why bother to broadcast it?