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Terror attacks in France and Tunisia/now

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POGS Fri 26-Jun-15 13:19:20

What a scary time we live in.

One man beheaded this morning in France, now at least 19 people killed in attacks on 'possibly' 2 hotels in Sousse, Tunisia. That is what is being reported at the moment, they are believed to be tourists.

It must be terrifying for those on holiday being told to barricade themselves in their rooms.

Just awful.

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:30:27

Quite.

Anya Tue 30-Jun-15 22:54:39

That's a bit harsh Ana! You've probably cut DJ to the quick by telling her that she's not the centre of your universe sad

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 22:57:13

I thought it better to nip it in the bud, Anya...wink

Anya Tue 30-Jun-15 22:59:52

You're a hard woman!

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 23:01:10

I'm sure it was for the best...

Anniebach Tue 30-Jun-15 23:04:11

Why so unkind ?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 30-Jun-15 23:06:03

....and Saint Anniebach pops up again! grin

Ana Tue 30-Jun-15 23:10:44

grin

Unkind? durhamjen is not averse to dishing out unkind comments herself.

Anniebach Tue 30-Jun-15 23:13:51

No Saint, just asking why two intelligent women choose to mock a fellow poster , why not speak directly to a poster not be bitchy, one asked why a poster said publicly they wished to send a PM , does it not apply to mocking, if there is a need to do it why publicly . I am surprised how bitchy some can be and so ask why

Anniebach Tue 30-Jun-15 23:17:42

Unkind comments are becoming more frequent but if there is a need to be unkind why not directly to the person ? Why mock anyone because they can't agree with you ?

durhamjen Tue 30-Jun-15 23:18:57

Has anybody read about the march or have you been too busy mocking people?

Anniebach Tue 30-Jun-15 23:20:24

And I was only asking not policing the board as accused this week, what you do for amusement is your choice

Eloethan Tue 30-Jun-15 23:51:56

Some of these sarcastic and, frankly, quite rude exchanges are very reminiscent of the sort of bullying behaviour that many of us will no doubt have observed at school.

If you have to resort to insulting those with whom you disagree then it seems to me you don't have much confidence in your ability to present a coherent and sensible argument.

Sharia plays no part in the British legal process, any more than Beth Din does. However, both carry a great deal of legitimacy in their respective religious communities and they are similar in that they are male dominated and operate in a way that disadvantages women.

Anya Wed 01-Jul-15 06:45:59

Eloethan you are quite capable of dishing out patronising and rude comments yourself, as seen in your post above! Are you referring to a little light-hearted banter between Ana and myself or to AB calling Jingl an insulting smart arse or something else entirely?

We are all quite capable of defending ourselves from such mild abuse I assure you.

We all know that Sharia law is not part of the British legal system, which is why some of us are dismayed to see aspects of it being applied in this country. We are also aware of the position of women within this and other religions which have yet to fully come of age.

Nelliemoser Wed 01-Jul-15 07:25:11

Eloethan has a good point.
It sounds to me very snide for two posters to to have such a "conversation" between them about a third party.
That is a classic a playground bullying tactic.

mcem Wed 01-Jul-15 07:28:24

I'm with you eloethan.
As the level of intelligent argument drops, the level of caustic nastiness rises.
Nothing wrong with a good-going argument when posters feel strongly about a difficult subject, but it becomes pointless when a thread degenerates into vitriol and the focus of the debate is lost in bitchiness.
Now I wonder if my comment will be branded patronising, bullying, offensive or sarcastic.

Nelliemoser Wed 01-Jul-15 07:29:26

Anya It was not a little light hearted banter "between yourselves". It was on a public forum FGS. "Ganging up against" and Spiteful comes to mind.

Iam64 Wed 01-Jul-15 09:05:37

It's tedious when interesting discussion with differing points of view being well expressed explodes or deteriorates into nasty snipes between individuals. "light hearted banter" is a phrase often used to defend indefensible rudeness. It's the kind of nonsense sprouted by people like Jeremy C who says he calls a spade a spade, thereby giving himself the right to be obnoxious.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 01-Jul-15 09:31:06

spouted

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 01-Jul-15 09:31:21

Sorry! blush

Anniebach Wed 01-Jul-15 09:47:29

When I joined this forum I was mocked by a group , it was awful, I hadn't been aggressive , just did not agree with a poster on a topic, it happened to be a poster who led a coven and they swooped, I was so grateful to the posters who extended kindness to me and only because of that kindness I was able to stay here, but I have never forgotten how being mocked by a group felt . It happened yesterday, I spelt Sharia as shari , my I pad is playing up and the a kept sticking, considering the seriousness of this discussion to mock spelling was not just rude but so trivial , then durhamjen was mocked last night and it was cruel . so playground behaviour .

Anniebach Wed 01-Jul-15 10:04:31

Anyway back to the march, I will be joining one in Wales. durhamjen , I am a member of Hope not Hate, I think some here would find belonging to a group who do not speak hate and vengeance comfortable

Lapwing Wed 01-Jul-15 10:05:38

I have been reading some off the comments on this thread and I have to say that I am appalled. Posters seem to be more interested in scoring points than remembering those that matter, the victims of the attack. The families of the dead and those who will suffer for years to come.

Bellanonna Wed 01-Jul-15 10:11:58

Stuff of school playgrounds Lapwing

rosesarered Wed 01-Jul-15 10:28:30

Although, Lapwing, if you read all the posts on this thread, you will see that an awful lot of posters do care about the killings, and rather less about the sensibilities of Muslims who feel got at, in this country.
We are all adults on this forum after all, you should read some comments on other sites!Anniebach, all your comments have been about defending muslims both here and elsewhere, and blaming Britain for a lot of it which doesn't go down well as this is a British forum and British people have just been casually slaughtered whilst on holiday.
DJen, solidarity marches can be a force for good, but it's a bit like preaching to the converted, as those people who will take part are not the ones that
Need to think seriously about their own extremism, they will just sneer and go back to what they were doing.The March is a good thing, but I expect the amount of Muslim people taking part will be small, compared to the numbers who live in this country.