Concern within the Labour Party that Jeremy Corbyn is doing well

Sorry, roses, but Ana did say that Corbyn wants to leave the EU. I am just pointing out that he does not, and giving proof that he does not.
I assume Ana can support her statement. Otherwise she was telling porkies.

DJ heard that on the radio.

True Ana but they will know they voted according to their conscience at the time.

No bait intended Whitewave, just find your comments generally weird.

Saying that somebody is telling porkies is ridiculous DJ. we can all misunderstand something we hear or a false statement can be attributed to them.I thought that I had heard that Corbyn wants out of the EU as well.

'Telling porkies' implies telling deliberate untruths, which I am not, durhamjen and what's more it's a terribly childish phrase!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/25/jeremy-corbyn-refuses-to-_n_7870992.html

Only just over a month to go. Meeting up with cousin and two second cousins this evening for a meal. The kids are both recent graduates and like my 25 year old nephew a masters graduate all support JC. It seems the young are looking for an alternative, and as I argued in a previous post it is something the right wing do not seem to be taking on board.
I will be interested to hear their comments tonight.

"The Islington North MP replied: “No I wouldn’t rule it out...Because Cameron quite clearly follows an agenda which is about trading away workers’ rights, is about trading away environmental protection, is about trading away much of what is in the social chapter.

“The EU also knowingly, deliberately maintains a number of tax havens and tax evasion posts around the continent - Luxembourg, Monaco and a number of others - and has this strange relationship with Switzerland which allows a lot of European companies to outsource their profits to Switzerland where tax rates are very low.

“I think we should be making demands: universal workers’ rights, universal environmental protection, end the race to the bottom on corporate taxation, end the race to the bottom in working wage protection.

“And I think we should be making those demands and negotiating on those demands rather than saying blanketly we’re going to support whatever Cameron comes out with in one, two years’ time, whenever he finally decides to hold this referendum.” "

This is not saying that Corbyn wants the UK to leave the EU. You need to tell the whole story. He is part of the campaign for us to stay in the EU, but would not rule out us leaving if workers rights have been traded away. I agree with Corbyn on this.
He has said more than Cameron. He is challenging Cameron. What is Cameron negotiating before he gives us a date for the referendum?

Is there anyone on this forum who is a Labour voter and doesn't think that 'JC' is the answer for the Labour Party and the future of this country?If there is, speak now or forever hold your peace.

"In a statement released to the Guardian, Corbyn said: “Labour should set out its own clear position to influence negotiations, working with our European allies to set out a reform agenda to benefit ordinary Europeans across the continent. We cannot be content with the state of the EU as it stands. But that does not mean walking away, but staying to fight together for a better Europe.”

Corbyn made clear that he intended to campaign for reform from within the EU after Phil Wilson and Pat Glass, the two MPs who chair the parliamentary Labour party’s 100-strong pro-EU group, wrote to him asking that he make clear whether he supported EU membership. Corbyn had declined at a leadership hustings last week to rule out campaigning for a no vote on the grounds that David Cameron was intent on “trading away workers’ rights” in his EU negotiations.

In their letter, Wilson and Glass wrote: “We believe it is incumbent on you to state clearly to the party membership, and more importantly to the country, your position on membership of the EU before the ballot papers are despatched in August. We believe you need to make your position clear too: if you are leader of the Labour party, would you campaign to remain in the EU, yes or no?” "

I don't think many would dare, roses!

Me roseare

But then, I've decided not to vote for any of the other lack-lustre candidates either.

Ah, a voice from the wilderness! Take your shoes off and come in Anya.

Might be better to keep them on in order to make a swift getaway!

So no vote for any of them?

Have you changed your allegiance from the Green Party, dj?

I would like to hear from any Labour supporter who favours one of the other candidates, and why. Differences of opinion are always welcome, along with reasoned debate.

I would too.

Somebody has to be Leader after all.

"Some of these commentators huddle together on social media, competing over how snarky and belittling they can be towards those oh-so-childish/unhinged/ridiculous (delete as applicable) Corbynites, unable to understand that rare thing, the birth of a genuinely grassroots political movement. And that’s the problem: this snarkiness is all some seem to have left. Much of the self-described “centre-left” – I’d say Blairism, but some embrace the label more than others – now lack a clear vision, or a set of policies, or even a coherent distinct set of values. They increasingly define themselves against what they regard as a deluded, childish left. They have created a vacuum and it has now been filled by the Corbyn left."

From an article by Owen Jones.

Just reading Johnson's article. His argument is that those supporting JC are forgetting what the Blair government did for the working man and goes on to list them thus (out of interest)
Transformation in health and education with additional pay for teachers and nurses.
3000 Sure Start centres
Disability Discrimination Act
Human Rights Act
Civil Partnership
Recued 1.2m children from absolute poverty
1.8m children from relative poverty
Pension credit - the single biggest contribution to the fact that for the first time in history the old were not associated with the poor.
Pension Protection Fund.
Resuscitation of apprenticeships
World's first legally enforceable carbon reduction targets
First national minimum wage
Right to paid holidays
Every worker given right to be represented at a disciplinary hearing
Women's maternity leave rose to 9 months
Paternity leave introduced.
Ban on union rep. at GCHQ lifted
Public disclosures act protected whistleblowers
New rights for part time workers
This and more was what the Blair government did for the working man..

Johnson argues that we must not rubbish everything the Blair government did and looking at the impressive list he does have a point.

The trouble is though as I continually blether on about, the Blairites are not listening! And haven't been in my opinion for at least 5 years.

Agreed, whitewave.
As long as the other three are going along with austerity, they are not following what Blair did for the poor. They are helping to dismantle it.