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Cutting Benefit deaths

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durhamjen Fri 28-Aug-15 15:08:29

fullfact.org/economy/dwp_publishes_benefit_claimant_deaths-47572

Full Fact saying what we can and cannot read into the figures.

durhamjen Fri 28-Aug-15 15:06:27

This is the website, Stansgran, from the man who requested the information. It took over two years for IDS to release the information, having initially said they did not have the figures.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/08/28/many-commiserations-on-your-unqualified-success-thecritique-archives/

Lots on it. Do not stop at the first ads.

trisher Fri 28-Aug-15 14:52:10

They were released after a journalist requested them under the Freedom of Information act. The government tried to block it
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/over-4000-people-have-died-soon-after-being-found-fit-to-work-by-the-dwps-benefit-tests-10474474.html

Stansgran Fri 28-Aug-15 14:35:11

Where are the figures from? I would like to know where I can find them and if it's a reputable source. Thank you if you can Trisher

trisher Fri 28-Aug-15 14:33:07

I think classing somebody who is dying as "fit for work" is ridiculous. And funerals cost so much. Anyway you look at it it's horrific.

FarNorth Fri 28-Aug-15 14:25:04

That does seem okay to me, too.
The statistics, though, are about people whose benefit was cut because they were deemed to be "fit for work", which I'm guessing did not happen to your MiL.

Jane10 Fri 28-Aug-15 14:20:40

Maybe their benefits were cut as they were long term patients in hospital because they were very ill? I know that happened to my MiL and it seemed OK to us as she was not going to be coming out.

FarNorth Fri 28-Aug-15 14:10:39

They probably hadn't found work, just got told to do so and got their benefits cut. Not very happy-making.

Anniebach Fri 28-Aug-15 14:05:42

It cannot be justified , I suppose some will say - well they were happy for the last two weeks of their lives if they had found work

What is so frightening is we have this government for five years

trisher Fri 28-Aug-15 13:25:40

According to the latest figures nearly 2400 sick and disabled people died within 2 weeks of having their benefits cut and being told they were fit for work. The government thinks there is no causal link. I don't think that matters. Anyway you look at it this is shocking,cruel and inexcusable. So Cameron supporters justify it if you can.