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Jermy Corbyn elected

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Teetime Sat 12-Sept-15 11:45:58

Bugger it that's the next election lost.

thatbags Thu 17-Sept-15 09:20:00

soon's viewpoint is not nonsense. It's a valid point of view.

Whether I or anyone else agrees with it, or understands it in iam's case, is a separate issue. Of course.

whitewave Thu 17-Sept-15 09:17:35

Well soon assuming I did agree with your hypothesis that the left wing supporter seems less than enamoured with the British way of life, it may be because of the inequality that is rife, the lack of housing, the attack on the NHS etc. It isn't because we abhor the British way if life, just the way it has been hijacked by the far right. The British way of life will continue just the level of unfairness will be diminished.

With regards to the monarchy, they are an anachronistic result of our history, and largely seen as an irrelevance by many, but by no means all those on the left, many on the right feel the same way - look across the Atlantic and you will find 200m of them!

Marmark1 Thu 17-Sept-15 09:10:49

Because they're miserable,and they want every one else to be miserable

Iam64 Thu 17-Sept-15 09:08:49

soon - breaking your nonsense down into two parts doesn't make it any less nonsensical.

soontobe Thu 17-Sept-15 09:05:06

If my theory is nonsense, I will break it down into two parts.

Why do people on the left of British politics[including JC obviously], appear less than enamoured with the British way of life? To the point that some of them, well lots, seem to have lots of things, going back centuries against the British, perhaps in particular the English?

And might that be at the root of the monarchy etc not appearing to be of high importance?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 17-Sept-15 09:02:46

Queen. Not question

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 17-Sept-15 09:02:14

I would love to see him kneeling before the Question. I hope it goes out on telly.

Serves him right for believing he can overturn hundreds of years of respected British tradition.

Iam64 Thu 17-Sept-15 08:59:35

Good Morning whitewave - thanks for rising a smile as I read through this thread
I've x posted with Marmark1 - oh dear, no humour there then.

Marmark1 Thu 17-Sept-15 08:53:01

Used to be Great Britain.Thats what made people want to be here,
A question,why are lefties so bossy and do as I say not as I do?Like Corbins not rich? He just don't want anyone else to be.

whitewave Thu 17-Sept-15 08:28:47

To quote "isn't politics wonderful, we no sooner elect the most right wing government we have had for decades, then we counter balance it with a proper left wing opposition leader" Democracy in action. How sensible of the UK voter.

thatbags Thu 17-Sept-15 08:12:33

Bin a rebel misself.

thatbags Thu 17-Sept-15 08:11:59

That bit about his wont is a dead pan observation, btw, not a judgment, so hold your hair on Jezzites.

thatbags Thu 17-Sept-15 08:11:05

Might he have just been rebelling, as is his wont? Haven't read all the back story.

thatbags Thu 17-Sept-15 08:09:13

Why didn't somebody just tell him about the protocol? Someone in his own party, for instance. [genuinely puzzled]

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 17-Sept-15 01:30:46

I am such a slow typist! Good night ladies flowers

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 17-Sept-15 01:26:58

POGS the vast majority of people had never heard of him before he stood for the leadership so his 30 years doesn't mean much in that respect. As for his own convictions, yes he will have some difficult choices to make and I can imagine him sacrificing some of those convictions to reach a compromise with his Cabinet colleagues. We'll have to wait and see, but I will not judge him harshly unless I think he is being unreasonable.

jingle I could be wrong, but I think his spokesperson said after the interview that he would follow protocol. He gave two interviews today (BBC and C4), but I think both were recorded earlier today. Again I could be wrong.

rosequartz I don't think he comes over as a charming old duffer. He seemed doing the sensible thing by trying to take this huge change in his circumstances in his stride and at his own pace as much as he can. He may not have expected to become Leader, but I think he'll do his best now that he is.

POGS Thu 17-Sept-15 00:35:38

I am not defending jings posts but I have to say that Corbyn is 'an old hand' in Parliament and over his extensive time in the 'bubble' you are on a hide to nowhere if you think he can be treated as a new comer or an uninterested party in politics and all it's protocols. He is not thick?!

It would be like saying I didn't know you had to kneel to get a knighthood .

It is a mark of respect and he has accepted the position of 'Her Majesty's Opposition' and will swear on oath his alligence to the Queen and to uphold the preservation of the monarchy.

Eloethan Thu 17-Sept-15 00:07:46

Why is it hilarious that he didn't know you would have to kneel before the queen in order to become a member of the Privy Council? As a backbencher and a conscientious constituency MP, I don't think the archaic practices of the senior echelons of government were something that he would have either known about or been interested in. And, to be honest, who on earth would imagine that in this day and age in a supposedly modern country a person would actually have to kneel before the queen?

Since several people on here think he's a disaster and won't be able to stay the course, I don't know why they're spending so much time finding fault with everything he does.

I feel great sympathy for him - to challenge the establishment and thus have the right wing media on your back all the time must be exhausting.

POGS Wed 16-Sept-15 23:55:34

DJ

I owe you an apology it was on the Monday.

POGS Wed 16-Sept-15 23:45:45

DJ

Yes he did attend the Camden and Islington NHS Mental Health Trust's Fun Day. The photos are there to prove it.

Didn't he turn down the Andrew Marr show that day ? Marr actually stated he was not taking up the offer to appear on his show as he was busy putting together his cabinet so his deputy Tom Watson filled the spot.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 23:43:05

It'll be interesting though. grin

Sorry link was rubbish. I was skypeing DD at the same time.

Anniebach Wed 16-Sept-15 23:40:17

I am sure he had far more important matters to think about than protocol when meeting the queen

durhamjen Wed 16-Sept-15 23:20:51

I think he's been rather busy since he was elected. He managed to fit in a visit to Islington mental health trust on Monday, as well as sorting out the rest of his team.
Finding out about what to do when being made a privy councillor was probably well down on his to-do list.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 23:20:10

Oh, I think he's intellectually astute all right, but I don't think he'll be able to stand the pace. He'll just make waves and then hand over to someone else well before the next general election.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 23:16:10

You'd think he'd have read up on the protocol as soon as (if not before) he was elected.

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