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The National Anthem

(162 Posts)
Eloethan Wed 16-Sept-15 00:32:51

It seems to me that if we call ourselves a democracy then anybody should be perfectly at liberty not to have to sing the national anthem. It is, in my opinion, a horrible dirge of a song anyway with ridiculous words that concentrate wholly on the monarch rather than on the country and its people.

There has been almost universal condemnation of Jeremy Corbyn for not singing words with which he does not agree. No doubt, if he had sung the national anthem there would have been a lot of sneering remarks about him being a hypocrite. Some people snigger at other countries for treating their leaders as if they were divine beings and yet it seems to me that many people in this country have a similarly strange attitude towards the monarch who is, after all, just another human being.

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 14:26:03

Jingl.... You put it so much better than me, less diplomatic, but better!grin

merlotgran Wed 16-Sept-15 14:27:01

Ah, but the more he stays true to himself and refuses to acknowledge the Queen the less likely he is to become PM.

Go for it, Jezza! grin

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 14:39:13

I agree there merlot. grin

MaizieD Wed 16-Sept-15 14:46:13

Oh dear. Some of us just aren't fit to be Brits, are we Jingl?

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 14:53:51

jing you are in danger of blowing a gasgit -in the words of our illustrious leader "calm down dear"

Republicanism has a fine and proud history, JC is simply part of that belief, joining the majority of the world.

sunseeker Wed 16-Sept-15 14:56:17

Yes because all those countries with presidents are all such wonderful democratic places hmm.

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 15:00:54

No I am thinking of USA, France Italy, Germany, etc. The populations of whom are citizens and not subjects with all the connotations of being such.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 15:41:02

Why do you say that whitewave (re blowing a gasket)? confused I am enjoying myself. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 15:42:12

You did mean "gasket" didn't you? smile

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 15:43:28

You said it Maizied*! I wouldn't dream of saying such a thing. Out loud.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 15:43:40

This 'calm down dear' business is getting tedious now. Anyone who disagrees with any degree of vehemence with the view of those on the left gets told to do it. Time to think of a more original put-down, perhaps?

MaizieD Wed 16-Sept-15 15:44:47

I thought 'gasgit' was somehow much more appropriate wink

Congratulations on coining a new word, whitewave

Devorgilla Wed 16-Sept-15 15:46:54

I will be (slightly) disappointed if he does sing the National Anthem at future events. I just don't think it is that big an issue. However, it could open up a whole new job opportunity. At every occasion where the National Anthem is sung you could employ people to video every British subject to see if they are singing. If they aren't we could shame them instantly in the press or social media and devise suitable punishments.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 15:47:18

A cross between 'gasbag' and 'old git' perhaps? grin

trisher Wed 16-Sept-15 15:48:39

I couldn't give a flying f--k if he sings the National Anthem or not. Nor I suspect do the majority of the people who voted for him because he spoke honestly and openly about the problems of ordinary people. The fact is that he stands for things which are fundamentally good, is caring and honest and speaks from the heart. Obviously most people know his ideas are right and in order to attack him they pick on silly trivialities like him not singing. I'd rather have someone in power who doesn't sing the National Anthem than someone who smiles and mouths platitudes whilst making the poorest and weakest suffer more.

Tegan Wed 16-Sept-15 15:54:41

Perhaps, Ana you would prefer it if someone just did a link to Cameron saying it instead....would that be acceptable? Or maybe it should only be mentioned each time someone mentions 'duffle coats'......

Devorgilla Wed 16-Sept-15 15:56:35

Well said trisher!

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 15:56:42

No, I wouldn't prefer that, Tegan smile

MaizieD Wed 16-Sept-15 15:59:33

While we're at it, another tweet from an evil L winger about the Conservatives:

As a tribute to all who gave their lives in WWII, we're going to dismantle the welfare state they inspired while singing God Save The Queen.

merlotgran Wed 16-Sept-15 16:02:19

The thing is, he's not in power. He has almost five years to put his money where his mouth is (or words to that effect) Opinions can change. Tony Blair was hailed a hero when he stormed into No 10 and look what happened to him. hmm

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 16:05:12

Yes, but he served for three successive terms as PM don't forget, merlot...hmm

merlotgran Wed 16-Sept-15 16:07:13

So he did! Some things are best forgotten grin

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 16:11:41

Do you think that anyone really thinks about the queen when they sing the National Anthem? Isn't it a way of honouring our country more than anything? I think it is.

It makes JC seem practically a Communist! (Are we sure he's not?)

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 16:13:04

Oh dear! my dyslexia rears its head yet again - sorry folks for causing offence.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 16-Sept-15 16:14:29

I am not seeing "reds under the beds". (perhaps just seeing one on the front bench of the Opposition). smile