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Jeremy Corbyn Elected

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rosequartz Sun 20-Sept-15 20:42:59

As jinglbellsfrocks had the last word in the last thread about Jermy Corbyn, I am starting a new one.

Do you think that the election of Jeremy Corbyn has scuppered Labour's chances of winning the next election or has it revitalised the party?

durhamjen Wed 30-Sept-15 21:39:23

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/09/30/corbyn-has-brought-party-conference-back-to-life

Anniebach Wed 30-Sept-15 22:00:32

Jen, even we adults have difficulties seperating goodies from baddies at time

Anniebach Wed 30-Sept-15 22:02:21

I agree, he has people interested in Politics again, and what a refreshing change to hear someone who isn't on message

durhamjen Wed 30-Sept-15 22:12:18

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2015/09/30/uk-economy-ranked-below-zimbabwe-by-world-economic-forum-thanks-cameron/

This is what happens when people who do not understand run the economy.

POGS Wed 30-Sept-15 23:50:06

So Durhamjen.

Can I ask you this question to understand your thought and the link you provide.

Do you believe/accept/consider the UK is now financially trailing behind Zimbabwe in the World's Financial League?

durhamjen Wed 30-Sept-15 23:54:42

So POGS.

Can I ask you this question to understand your thought.

Do you not believe the World Economic Forum, the forum which all economists take notice of?

durhamjen Wed 30-Sept-15 23:56:12

Anniebach, the Tory conference is going to be brought to life as well, but not by the Tories.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/the-northerner/2015/sep/30/anti-tory-protests-expected-in-manchester

Over 100,000 expected, including Corbyn.

durhamjen Thu 01-Oct-15 00:04:50

Excellent article, this, as well.

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2015/09/26/jeremy-corbyn-proves-politicians-can-speak-human-without-being-bigots/

From the same source that tells us that the UK economy ranks below that of Zimbabwe, because of the debt this government has built up.

POGS Thu 01-Oct-15 00:42:56

Durhamjen

I did ask do you believe/accept, consider the UK is now trailing behind Zimbabwe in the World's Financial League?

As you have elected to supply a link which states 'UK economy ranked below Zimbabwe' and you have chosen not to answer my question then at this moment I am making an assumption you believe this to be true.

You then use a sort of reverse psychology by asking me my thought without answering my question but I will answer.

I think it is ridiculous to consider the UK is in all aspects of financial credibility trailing behind Zimbabwe !

I think it is a selective 'link' to say the least .

POGS Thu 01-Oct-15 01:17:14

As for any 'possible' demonstrations/protests at the Tory Conference I find that sad for many reasons.

It will be seen by some as a demonstration of 'people power'.

To others it will endorse their concerns that this is how the 'Left of Politics' cannot accept democracy/debate/discussion unless it is on their terms. More of it to come.

Some will find it funny, amusing, empowering.

Some will find it intimidating, bullying.

I am pleased the Labour Party Conference wasn't subjected to intimidation/protest but I couldn't imagine for a moment why it would be.

We are supposed to live in a democratic country are we not and attending a political conference is simply a democratic process. Well to most people anyway.

whitewave Thu 01-Oct-15 07:44:17

Is it a coincidence that the only major protests are always as a result of right wing action? No of course not. Those not of the elite, have no other way of showing their displeasure. They do not have access to the networks that exist for those with the power , like the media, politicians etc.

MargaretX Thu 01-Oct-15 10:47:03

No I am not German I'm English from deep in the woods socialist roots. It is just that I speak fluent German and understand European politics. I didn't know it was a joke that you called Merkel and Obama communists.

Obviously I haven't read enough posts to be au fait as to what is a joke or not.

petra Thu 01-Oct-15 11:40:12

I have to say that JC has made me think about Trident. Never thought I would write those words.

whitewave Thu 01-Oct-15 11:56:17

petra be consoled that by no means is it those on the left who think like JC - it really isn't a left/right thing.

whitewave Thu 01-Oct-15 11:58:28

margaret no problem smile it is my weird sense of humour!

Anniebach Thu 01-Oct-15 12:09:03

Do we have billions to spend on something that is useless , we couldn't attack or defend with it . If it will bring world peace why didn't we drop it on Iraq? Why didn't America?

Look at film of the aftermath of the bombing of .Hiroshima, if we are bombed would we be in a position to launch a defence ? We would have millions dead, millions dying, millions screaming as their skin peels off

Nuclear warfare is evil

Anniebach Thu 01-Oct-15 12:13:04

I do ask again,look at a film of the aftermath in Hiroshima and Nagasaki , do you really believe only those to the left in politics want rid of nuclear warfare?

Ana Thu 01-Oct-15 12:14:27

There would be warning that the bomb was on its way. That's the time to decide whether to press the button in retaliation - and the other side know that, which is why Trident is a deterrent.

soontobe Thu 01-Oct-15 13:00:06

Anniebach, we defend with it right now.

Anya Thu 01-Oct-15 13:09:51

How do you work that out S2B when the situation has never been put to the test? Russia is hardly going to launch a nuclear attack because we are not buying their vodka.

Anya Thu 01-Oct-15 13:12:22

And in the one incident I can think of - the Bay of Pigs, it was Kruschov (?) who backed down when that fool FJK was flexing his muscles.

soontobe Thu 01-Oct-15 13:16:53

There has peace. There is peace. Since the nuclear stuff. Enough said.

Anniebach Thu 01-Oct-15 13:17:34

soon, who are we defending ourselves from? You must think one of the eight countries will attack us because you say we are defending ourselves from them ?

Anniebach Thu 01-Oct-15 13:20:28

Ana, why do you think only nine countries think they need nuclear warfare?

Anniebach Thu 01-Oct-15 13:24:27

No soon, not enough said, Iraq, Afghanistan to name just two, you think we are at peace because we bombed hell out of these countries , that isn't peace soon, it's war . Suppose it doesn't trouble you because you haven't been bombed , you son didn't die in Iraq or Afghanistan, tell the mothers of those who died we have had peace since 1945