Jeremy Corbyn Elected

So true trisher, at some demonstrations the police are instructed to cause disruption, you can spot them, their number which is always suppose to be visible is covered, their faces covered and kettling is guaranteed to cause problems - so they do it and every given oppertunity

P.S My idea of barbarism is IS! Also Russia's indiscriminate bombing of Syria! So much for socialism!!!

I wouldn't dream of speaking for anyone, least of all you Annibach!

A clinic run by the charity MSF has been hit during a strike in Afghanistan, more than 30 staff are unaccounted for. America had been told of the location of this clinic but they carried on, friendly fire perhaps

The Americans have admitted that it was probably their aircraft that did the damage - the Taliban usually fight on the ground - and they coldly call it 'collateral damage'.

nigglenellie, could you explain how you link Russia bombing Syria with socialism?

I've always understood that socialism was about peace and improving people's lives, and as Russia is, as I understand it, (perhaps I'm wrong) a socialist country, I can't see that indiscriminate bombing of helplessness civilians goes hand in hand with the enrichment of people's lives. With America, there will, quite rightly be a hullabaloo; With Russia?!!!!! a bit of hand wringing, maybe!!!

Someone arguing that Putin is making more sense in Syria than anyone else. #apointofview

I'm not reading that link. No way is he is making sense in any decent meaning of the word.

And I think the world has moved into a very dangerous phase with Putin doing this. (Why isn't this on a separate thread?)

So nigglenellie the bombing of the hospital by America is democracy ?

This sums it all up perfectly.! How clever Putin is! Talk about checkmate!!

Anniebach and trisher
Surely you are not arguing that the police are always to blame when protest turns to riot, or that protesters never have intent to harm others.
In this instance, Graham Stringer, not known for his right -wing views, criticises the police for not doing enough to contain the riots in Manchester in 2011.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14467588

No janeaisworth, no one has claimed the police are always to blame , I do say at some demonstrations they do deliberately stir up confrontations

So nigglenellie the bombing of the hospital by America is democracy?

Where did nigglienellie say that? Please could you point me in the right direction anniebach

She said there will be a hullabaloo and that this will be quite right.

Anniebach post 12.51pm whoa

I did indeed rosequartz. I was making a comparison between the bombing of a hospital which has quite rightly been roundly condemned, to the almost silent reaction to Russia's indiscriminate bombing in Syria - a bit glaring don't you think?!

Well, I thought your post made your thoughts perfectly clear nigglenellie

Unlike some of mine that have frequently been misinterpreted perhaps ambiguous.

Anniebach unless you have seen that with your own eyes, or you can quote documentary evidence that the police routinely incite violence st peaceful demonstrations, I think that is an outrageous assertion.

!!!!! How does anyone turn "With America, there will, quite rightly be a hullabaloo"

into " . . . so the bombing of the hospital by America is democracy?" ????

Reminds me of the old unanswerable yes/no trick question - "Are you still beating your wife?"

Rosequartz , you failed to notice I asked a question , there was a ?

janeaisworth , you think there is evidence which can be produced? Too funny . There was evidence when Ian Tomlinson was killed by a police officer, the police denied they were in anyway involved, then someone produced video evidence , that was bad luck for the police , death for Mr Tomlinson

"There was a ?" There was also a "so", implying a direct link where none exists and inviting an answer on the terms of that non-existent link. See number 3 in False arguments See also my previous post about wife-beating.

No idea what you are on about Elegran, that you read a word and for you it implies something doesn't make it true ,just what you choose to think

Exaxctly what I saying.

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/events/stop-the-war-events-national/06-oct-manchester-public-meeting-don-t-bomb-syria-stop-the-spread-of-war

For anyone in Manchester who wants to go.