Jeremy Corbyn Elected

Thanks anniebach (especially as I was skiving off enjoying myself for a few days and neglecting my duties on here!)

Yes nigglynellie. That is true.

I think most British police officers are fine. But you do get rogue ones (thinking him-with-his-bike in Downing Street, and the police who lied)

Not all police officers are corrupt but many are
Whoa again Anniebach

Because years ago people on the whole were fearful of criticising the Police, never mind reporting them! These days this is far less the case, also in these days of social media any whiff of police corruption is instantly in the public domain, so difficult to cover up. Also the ethos of the Police themselves has altered out of all recognition in the last twenty odd years. Yes there are still rotten apples, but they risk being flushed out and these days usually are.

Of course there are some 'corrupt' police ( usually higher in the food chain than the constables) but the same can be said of Councils and other jobs where money can change hands for favours given.
Some people dislike the police because
A) they are criminals
B)they dislike all authority
C) they dislike the fact that the police work for the government of the day and are somehow right wing.
D) they were once pushed and shoved by the police line when on a demo years ago.
There may be other reasons.

E] They tar everyone with the same brush
F] They are angry at the police for something or other, maybe from years ago.
G] They maybe came across a bad apple, so think a lot of them are
H] They got the wrong end of the stick sometime.

I feel that it is not those on the left who are naïve but those on the right who seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Conservative Party has the interests of the average citizen of this country as its priority. Virtually all measures whose aims were to improve the lives of the majority population have been achieved by those on the left - with an agenda which was far to the left of anything we see now.

The Labour Party has, from its inception, been responsible for virtually all the social reforms in this country: the introduction of a state pension and the NHS, the 8-hour working day, social housing, rent controls, abolition of capital punishment, de-criminalisation of homosexuality, employment rights including maternity leave, Health & Safety at work, Employment Tribunals, legal protection for women suffering domestic abuse, access to abortion, fairer divorce laws, the Equal Pay Act, equality and anti-discrimination legislation, Open University, Sure Start centres, etc. etc. -most of which were met with opposition from the Conservatives.

I'm not quite sure therefore how those on the left who wish to maintain the improvements brought about by the Labour Party can be described as "anti-British". They may be anti many elements of the entrenched establishment which has, in the main, operated to protect their own rights and privileges - whatever the cost to the population of this or other countries - but that does not make them anti-British.

The Government is terrible
The police are terrible
The legal system is terrible
What the British used to do is terrible
Education is terrible

And yet millions of people want to come to the UK.

How odd.

Forgot some

The NHS is terrible
The welfare state is terrible
Trident is terrible

Notice a pattern?

Never happy, never grateful, never peaceful

They will be when JC is PM (i.e. never...)

Labour has brought in many good reforms in the past ( although we cannot live in the past). The last Labour government brought us the war in Iraq,
A wildly escalating welfare bill, and finally, to our financial knees.
Nobody trusted them with the economy after that, and slowly( and it will be slowly) the first coalition government and now a Conservative government are getting the country in a better place.Salaries cannot and have not gone up very much, but equally interest rates remain very low and inflation is also low.
The anti British feeling by some, takes the form of blaming Britain for all sorts if wrongdoing in the past ( it hasn't been covered up) almost wallowing in how terrible things are/ have been etc.As though other countries are somehow blameless. We should be proud of the things our country has achieved and not constantly denigrating it.Where else would anyone like to live, I am more than happy here.

So, do you think everything is in apple-pie order in the UK soon?

No country in the world has everything in apple pie order Jingl.

No jinglbellsfrocks.
But everyone, and I mean everyone should be very grateful for what they do have. Whatever that may be.

I'm sure that's true. But we haven't got everything right.

That was to roses.

Not odd soon, if you lived in dire poverty and under a dictator anywhere would be a better option

Why should we grateful? Who to?

soon, please do not reply to my posts with 'whoa' I am not a horse , most rude

You don't have to be grateful to anyone, jingl. You can just feel grateful for whatever it is - your health, your family, the opportunities you have had.

Who has got ' everything' right?

Plus the fact that we live in a democracy, with free speech for all, reasonable laws, we don't walk around armed, have a mild climate, no dangerous animals or wildlife to be on the alert for.... The list is endless.

I love this country, warts an all, and am proud of its tolerance, achievements, it's police force and armed forces. There is nowhere else I would rather live, ( and lots of places I feel very fortunate not live,) if there were, I would have gone there years ago in my youth. The only slight complaint is the rubbish summer weather we get year in year out, but none of us can blame the government for that, (or can we?!!!!)