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Jeremy Corbyn Elected

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rosequartz Sun 20-Sept-15 20:42:59

As jinglbellsfrocks had the last word in the last thread about Jermy Corbyn, I am starting a new one.

Do you think that the election of Jeremy Corbyn has scuppered Labour's chances of winning the next election or has it revitalised the party?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 03-Oct-15 16:45:50

Don't be stupid ab. What else would you expect?

whitewave Sat 03-Oct-15 16:48:27

Yes jing I think you are right. Either way he could not of won, but at least he stayed faithful to his lifelong beliefs.

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 16:55:12

Rosequartz , you failed to notice I asked a question , there was a?

No, I didn't fail to note that anniebach

durhamjen Sat 03-Oct-15 16:56:53

Has Russia bombed a hospital in Afghanistan? I must have missed that.

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 16:57:52

Jeremy Corbyn sounds a very sweet old man if I'm honest

Well, sweet is not exactly the adjective I would choose jingls. But certainly he is the more acceptable face of all the nastiness that is building up behind him on the Left.

durhamjen Sat 03-Oct-15 16:59:18

Dennis Healey said he would never press the button. What did that do to him?

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:00:18

No idea what you are on about Elegran, that you read a word and for you it implies something doesn't make it true ,just what you choose to think

Exactly what I saying.
Elegran grin

nigglynellie Sat 03-Oct-15 17:03:41

No, Russia has bombed Syrian civilians indiscriminately in areas where IS are not active. Putin has said that everyone who opposes Assad is a terrorist and has to be illuminated. Can't believe you missed this dj. Not a lot of hope for democracy, but plenty for the restoration of Assad

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-15 17:05:19

Just what I did expect jingle, they seem above criticism , they say sorry and all is well again, not for the dead though

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:07:20

The reason they are in Manchester is because that is where the Tories are, and they are the ones who can stop the war, not Labour, as the Tories are in power.
So you think that 'The Tories' can pop over to Russia, smile at President Putin and ask him nicely to stop the war if they say please?
You think 'The Tories' can pop over to Syria, smile nicely at all the different factions, get them in a room to shake hands and promise to stop killing each other.
This is not a kindergarten fight.

The land of the Cloud Cuckoos comes to mind with some of the thinking on here.

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:11:27

If police do not look forward to these demonstrations why do so many offer to do overtime and turn up for them ? to protect their mates or for the extra pay

FFS I don't normally swear, but really!

Because their job is to uphold the law, protect the public from some of the extremists and anarchists who infiltrate these demonstrations organised by perhaps well-meaning people.

rosesarered Sat 03-Oct-15 17:13:04

The only one who seems above criticism on here is Corbyn!

rosesarered Sat 03-Oct-15 17:15:07

Exactly RQ, and overtime pay/ protecting mates doesn't often come into it.DSIL just gets his orders to attend, officers picked out by his Sergeant to be on the duty roster.

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:15:31

His Shadow Cabinet will be popping him back in his box before too long, roses

rosesarered Sat 03-Oct-15 17:16:58

Why are some people so ( dare I say it) anti British and also anti police?
If a crime was committed against you, the police would be the first to be called by you, I assume.

rosesarered Sat 03-Oct-15 17:20:28

I think the naivete of the far left in most things is why they never do well in this country ( thank God.)

janeainsworth Sat 03-Oct-15 17:24:03

Anniebach on the day that Ian Tomlinson died, the Met were dealing with six different protests in London.
According to Wilipedia "Over 5,500 Metropolitan police officers were deployed on 1 April and 2,800 on 2 April, at an estimated cost of £7.2 million ($11.3 million). Officers worked 14-hour shifts on average. According to a police focus group, they ended their shifts at midnight, were required to sleep on the floor of police stations, were not given a chance to eat, and had to be back on duty at 7 am. This was seen as having contributed to the difficulties they faced."
I have no idea why any of them would volunteer to do overtime in these circumstances - have you?

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:29:06

janea - anniebach has already answered that question; apparently it is:
to protect their mates or for the extra pay
(it was a statement, there was no ?)

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-15 17:35:47

Money janeaisworth, and let's not pass the killing of Mr Tomlinson as the day he died, it was the day he was struck by a police officer for no reason and the blow killed him , a police officer who had once been sacked because he couldn't control his temper yet was taken back by the same force, and until the visitor came forward with the video evidence those trustworthy police officers with him covered up for him

Not all police officers are corrupt but many are , what is so sad is young people join the force because they believe it an honourable vocation but many are dragged into the corruption which comes from the top

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-15 17:38:12

I apologise to the forum, I asked a question but forgot the question mark, I thank the forum watchdog for drawing my attention to this ,

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:39:34

janea I hope you realised I was being facetious; it seems to have passed some other posters by.

rosequartz Sat 03-Oct-15 17:41:16

I thank the forum watchdog for drawing my attention to this
Sorry, I didn't realise it was a question

Do you mean me, anniebach?

Promotion at last. I waited all my working life for this.

nigglynellie Sat 03-Oct-15 17:54:55

Police corruption? Years ago most certainly, but not that much these days. For a start detection is far easier and punishment much more severe. Quite frankly, I would far rather be stopped by a British Bobby, than virtually any other Police Officer in the world. The same goes for a soldier. Of course they could be a rogue element, but almost always they are not.

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-15 17:57:39

You deserve it rosequartz , you put so much effort into it

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-15 17:59:53

Nigglynellie , why do think they have all suddenly become honest ? How many years ago are you thinking of?