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Corbyn declines to meet the Queen.

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rosesarered Thu 08-Oct-15 09:35:15

just heard that Corbyn declined to meet the Queen and join the Privy Council.He will be the first Leader of the Opposition to do this, or the first Leader of the Government come to that.Interesting!
Another thing that won't sit well with the voting public, along with not singing the National Anthem ( but lustily singing the red flag song.)
He is keeping to his principles ( as a back bencher) but this can't end well for a would be Leader.

Luckygirl Thu 08-Oct-15 09:38:00

He is not going to be PM and is therefore accorded the luxury of being honest - something that is sadly lacking in our nation's political life. I may not agree with all he says or believes, but it is good that in some areas he is not stooping to the hypocrisy that seems to be required of politicians.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 08-Oct-15 09:40:57

Cameron was sworn in three months after becoming leader of the Cons. It's nothing unusual. Big fuss over nothing.

Not many of the Council attend each meeting.

Anyway, if he wants to "snub" the Queen", well, he was voted into his new role. His followers knew his views. Why make a thing of it now.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 08-Oct-15 09:42:17

Whether it ends well or not depends, again, on the voters. Or his fellow labour MPs I suppose. I suppose.

Luckygirl Thu 08-Oct-15 09:55:32

At the risk of getting gobbled alive grin this is a very interesting link to what the privy council is and what it does. It would seem to be a waste of time, and Corbyn was right to prioritise other things.

soontobe Thu 08-Oct-15 10:13:40

Would he defend the Queen I wonder?

nigglynellie Thu 08-Oct-15 10:20:40

I would think it highly unlikely! But let's hope it never has to be put it to the test. Wonder how JC will cope with Remembrance Sunday? bearing in mind the Queen will be there, plus other royals! Hope good manners will prevail, but who knows?!!

Anniebach Thu 08-Oct-15 10:21:48

Defend the queen from what soon?

Anniebach Thu 08-Oct-15 10:23:37

Rememberance Sunday isn't for the queen or the rest of the windsors

Anniebach Thu 08-Oct-15 10:26:55

He has not refused to meet the queen, he is unable to attend the meeting today because he has an appointment elsewhere

nigglynellie Thu 08-Oct-15 10:37:49

It's not for disrespect either.

soontobe Thu 08-Oct-15 10:40:51

In which case, he will be meeting the Queen another time for the meeting.

Would he defend the Queen if she had an intruder?
Would he defend the Queen from an invading army?
Would he prioritise the Queen in anything at all?

Ana Thu 08-Oct-15 10:43:35

How do you know it's not out of disrespect, nigglynellie?

Ana Thu 08-Oct-15 10:48:26

David Cameron was sworn just over a week after becoming Tory leader, jingl, not three months after.

jackiekiel Thu 08-Oct-15 10:59:45

It's honest of Jeremy Corbyn to show how he feels if, indeed, it was meant as a snub. Freedom of speech is something we should cherish. Better to know politicians before they get elected - we've had too many who only show their true colours once it's too late.
I'd like to see an alternative to the national anthem. The Queen is well looked after but we should ask God to save those who aren't.

whitewave Thu 08-Oct-15 11:04:21

They said on the radio this morning that DC took 3 months not a week.

What a lot of nonsense this is.

soontobe Thu 08-Oct-15 11:07:34

So you think he is going to do it whitewave?
And there is no snub?

Ana Thu 08-Oct-15 11:19:29

Strange that no one seems to know what this mysterious 'prior engagement' is...

POGS Thu 08-Oct-15 11:51:44

Good for him.

I would like to see him do the same with the Labour Party over Trident, PQE, NATO etc.

I have been surprised he has not stuck to his guns over so many of his principles.

After all he 'does have a mandate' from Labour to lead the party in his values .

He cannot continue to be all things to all people can he. At some stage he must 'lead' .

To one group he was going to get rid of Trident, pull out of NATO , put in place Peoples Quantative Easing, Re Nationalise anything that moves but to do that he will have to 'stop listening' and lead the Party in his image. At the moment he is forgoing his principles to appease his MP's . Listening is good but leadership means taking control .

My bet? There will be some upset but he will put his policies into the party but it won't be Mr Nice Guy who does it.

Anniebach Thu 08-Oct-15 11:57:24

soon, are you one of those who would throw yourself between the queen and a bullet because she is the queen

Ana Thu 08-Oct-15 11:59:05

Doesn't she have bodyguards for that sort of thing anyway?

POGS Thu 08-Oct-15 12:03:38

I think the Privy Council does have more to it than some believe but I could be wrong.

Privy Counsellors are bound by oath to keep matters discussed secret. This will include matters is National Security . You swear your allegiance to the monarch.

I think Corbyn has made the right decision for him.

soontobe Thu 08-Oct-15 12:20:02

Anniebach. Well I did ask myself the question during the morning whether I would save the Queen or one of my children, if I had to choose. And decided it was my children, just.

But that does not really answer my post of 10.40am to you about JC does it?

You might like to know that in the Bible, people are supposed to give respect to whom respect is due.
I dont think that many people would disagree that our Queen is due respect.

Anya Thu 08-Oct-15 12:31:31

'Just' *S2B? What a loyal little subject you must be?

POGS Thu 08-Oct-15 12:31:51

Well there you go.

Labour MP Jon Ashworth on Daily Politics said Corbyn WILL join the Privy Council, unless I misheard him.

Talk about 'shifting sand'.