Corbyn declines to meet the Queen.

Yes 600 rather like the Lords where there are 800 not doing a lot except claiming £300 odd a day plus expenses for not a lot.

If the Privy Council does nothing, performs no function then Corbyn as a 'coviction politician' and a Republican could make a stand and decline the position.

He will only be doing as those who 'gave him the mandate' to do after all and his conviction , beliefs will be intact.

You've lost me there POGS

Are you saying that he would have no choice but to "play along" when his conscience tells him otherwise? Or that he should have followed his convictions and totally refused to join?

You could write what I know about politics on a postage stamp (second class of course) but I always thought the Privy Council was a kind of advisory body to the monarch.

Sorry if this has been said before, but I read yesterday that only a very small proportion of the members of the Privy Council DO actually turn up for the meetings although it would seem wise for JC to turn up to this one.

JC really needs to wise up, doesn't he? He seems to be adopting a laissez-faire type of leadership which would seem inappropriate for HM's Leader of the Opposition - if he wants to become PM, that is.

Generally about 4 turn up for each meeting

Obviously. Not lucrative enough

It said on radio at 1.00 that JC was off to a fund raiser in Scotland. Also said D.C. went to the Privy Council after 3 months.

gillybob

It is an advisory body to the monarch.

The point I am making is Corbyn's core voter, the grass roots , the activists, obviously believe, as does Corbyn, bodies of government such as the Privy Council have no meaning, cost too much and would see it abolished along with the House of Lords etc.

Corbyn's grass roots voters hail him as a 'conviction politician', a principled politician who will do as he says and put into Labour Policy the policies he urged them to vote for during his hustings/platforms to become Labour Leader. Maybe he should decline the position on the Privy Council to prove to his grass roots followers he will live up to their expectations.

The Privy Council has no respect nor value to 'the cause' so why not make a stand , according to him and his core voter it will have a Nada, zilch, zero meaning if he does not become a Privy Counsellor, it's a load of old b--ll--ks anyway.

I certainly do not agree with their views as to the function of the Privy Council, as my posts on this thread and in the past have indicated. but I can see why they feel Corbyn should not vow alegience to the monarch as both he and they are fully fledged behind the abolition of the monarchy so don't run the risk of being called a hypocrit.

Does that clear up your confusion to my post.

Appreciate the explanation POGS it's all a bit over my head tbh. I think I will invest in English politics for Dummies.

There are a lot of hypocrites in politics (and the royal family too for that matter)

Perhaps JC doesn't think he has any useful advice he could offer HM as yet; he probably thinks she is doing an excellent job without his help

^ I think I will invest in English politics for Dummies.^
gillybob that sounds an excellent idea for those nights when I can't get to sleep

Do they advise Her Maj or does she advise THEM? She'll certainly be the one with the most experience.

He can be all for the abolition of the monarchy if that is his conviction and his stated policy, but while the Queen is still head of state, she is still his nominal "boss". If he plans to depose her unilaterally without doing it legally, without a debate and a vote and so on, then he would not be acting constitutionally.

I think he should conform to the system until he gets the power to change it - and I am not at all sure that he could become Prime Minister without the formal acknowledgement of the head of state - who I believe is obliged to acknowledge him as such even when his avowed intention is to abolish her.

It is not a matter of "giving in", it is the system. In this country, if you want to change the system, you do it using the system, you don't do it by revolution and/or assassination - even the trial, conviction and beheading of a monarch was done by the book.

Comng soon: 'Corbyn Decides to Meet the Queen' - on a forum near you!

A guide to the Privy Council

The point I am making is Corbyn's core voter, the grass roots , the activists, obviously believe, as does Corbyn, bodies of government such as the Privy Council have no meaning, cost too much and would see it abolished along with the House of Lords etc.

How do you know this POGS? It's obvious? Not to me. The Privy council does have a purpose as far as I can see. It is, as the man who wrote a book on it said, the join between our democratically elected government and our head of state - who happens still to be a member of a particular family. There do seem to be hangers on and some silly "customs" which do not seem to be needed by other countries governments. My thoughts would be that JC may be a driver for some updating which has always taken place over time with the agreement of "the palace". In my view one of the things the Queen has been best at is knowing when changes are needed.

But of course such a simple solution would not please those determined to paint a negative picture.

I doubt that Corbyn has the power to change anything about the royals, or how things are done.

I bet he'll be happy to kneel before the Queen when he wants to go into the Lords.

I doubt he will goblin the Lords, and I find this thread amusing. Has no one ever watched the swearing in of PM's , over the years there have been a few who cross their fingers -hand behind back- when swearing the oath. Corbyn like many does not believe in a heredity monarchy, I would like someone to provide a link where he has said - I will do away with them. Yes anyone can campaign to abolish the monarchy but let's grant them the sense to know this can only be done by the ballot box not by arming themselves and storming Buck House.

I find it of interest that any thread on Corbyn garners so many posts

As ever Elegran has put it in a nutshell. Nuff said.
Can't be bothered getting sucked into the Tory bashing threads. Off to check on other ones.

Of course the Corbyn threads garner so many posts , people find him variously, amusing/ fascinating/interesting/dreadful/the saviour of the Labour Party/ the downfall of the Labour Party.
politically speaking, we haven't had this much fun in years.

Oh thank you ye Gods of technical things for somehow failing to upload the post I just typed!

(Phew, possibly just saved myself a torrent of abuse!)

Aw, spoilsport phoenix! we wanna see it!