Corbyn declines to meet the Queen.

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He can be all for the abolition of the monarchy if that is his conviction and his stated policy, but while the Queen is still head of state, she is still his nominal "boss". If he plans to depose her unilaterally without doing it legally, without a debate and a vote and so on, then he would not be acting constitutionally.

I think he should conform to the system until he gets the power to change it - and I am not at all sure that he could become Prime Minister without the formal acknowledgement of the head of state - who I believe is obliged to acknowledge him as such even when his avowed intention is to abolish her.

It is not a matter of "giving in", it is the system. In this country, if you want to change the system, you do it using the system, you don't do it by revolution and/or assassination - even the trial, conviction and beheading of a monarch was done by the book.

Do they advise Her Maj or does she advise THEM? She'll certainly be the one with the most experience.

^ I think I will invest in English politics for Dummies.^
gillybob that sounds an excellent idea for those nights when I can't get to sleep

Perhaps JC doesn't think he has any useful advice he could offer HM as yet; he probably thinks she is doing an excellent job without his help

Appreciate the explanation POGS it's all a bit over my head tbh. I think I will invest in English politics for Dummies.

There are a lot of hypocrites in politics (and the royal family too for that matter)

gillybob

It is an advisory body to the monarch.

The point I am making is Corbyn's core voter, the grass roots , the activists, obviously believe, as does Corbyn, bodies of government such as the Privy Council have no meaning, cost too much and would see it abolished along with the House of Lords etc.

Corbyn's grass roots voters hail him as a 'conviction politician', a principled politician who will do as he says and put into Labour Policy the policies he urged them to vote for during his hustings/platforms to become Labour Leader. Maybe he should decline the position on the Privy Council to prove to his grass roots followers he will live up to their expectations.

The Privy Council has no respect nor value to 'the cause' so why not make a stand , according to him and his core voter it will have a Nada, zilch, zero meaning if he does not become a Privy Counsellor, it's a load of old b--ll--ks anyway.

I certainly do not agree with their views as to the function of the Privy Council, as my posts on this thread and in the past have indicated. but I can see why they feel Corbyn should not vow alegience to the monarch as both he and they are fully fledged behind the abolition of the monarchy so don't run the risk of being called a hypocrit.

Does that clear up your confusion to my post.

It said on radio at 1.00 that JC was off to a fund raiser in Scotland. Also said D.C. went to the Privy Council after 3 months.

Obviously. Not lucrative enough

Generally about 4 turn up for each meeting

Sorry if this has been said before, but I read yesterday that only a very small proportion of the members of the Privy Council DO actually turn up for the meetings although it would seem wise for JC to turn up to this one.

JC really needs to wise up, doesn't he? He seems to be adopting a laissez-faire type of leadership which would seem inappropriate for HM's Leader of the Opposition - if he wants to become PM, that is.

You could write what I know about politics on a postage stamp (second class of course) but I always thought the Privy Council was a kind of advisory body to the monarch.

You've lost me there POGS

Are you saying that he would have no choice but to "play along" when his conscience tells him otherwise? Or that he should have followed his convictions and totally refused to join?

If the Privy Council does nothing, performs no function then Corbyn as a 'coviction politician' and a Republican could make a stand and decline the position.

He will only be doing as those who 'gave him the mandate' to do after all and his conviction , beliefs will be intact.

Yes 600 rather like the Lords where there are 800 not doing a lot except claiming £300 odd a day plus expenses for not a lot.

There seems to be plenty of them "not doing a lot" then. whitewave

Just listening to what the privey council does. Not a lot as far as I can see.

If you want chapter and verse, I can certainly supply them.
I didnt before, because this thread is not in the religious/spiritual topic, so I didnt think it was appropriate.

Poor soon being told yet again what she can or can't do! Is it against the law to quote the Bible if somebody wishes to during a discussion? If so I haven't heard about it. I imagine this covers all holy books, again, I've never heard that anybody has the right to make this request. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Yup, fast thumbs!

Oh well thats better then roses he can tweet his way through everything. Much quicker.

I think Corbyn prefers to do most things by text or social media.

Well this is all very interesting...doing it by post whoever would have thought?

I wonder what else he will refuse to join/take part in?

Surely there are limits to what you can do by post especially now that a first class stamp is 63p..... not sure how much for 2nd though

He can do it by post - as I said above.