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Will Cameron resign if he looses EU vote?

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Gracesgran Sun 11-Oct-15 13:13:48

With an interesting article in the Sunday Telegraph which lays out the four-point plan they say that David Cameron and his closest Cabinet allies have drawn up, thoughts of what will happen after the referendum are being discussed by the chattering classes.

They four points are:

Forcing Brussels to make “an explicit statement” that Britain will be kept out of any move towards a European superstate. This will require an exemption for the UK from the EU’s founding principle of “ever closer union”.

An “explicit statement” that the euro is not the official currency of the EU, making clear that Europe is a “multi-currency” union. Ministers want this declaration in order to protect the status of the pound sterling as a legitimate currency that will always exist.

A new “red card” system to bring power back from Brussels to Britain. This would give groups of national parliaments the power to stop unwanted directives being handed down and to scrap existing EU laws.

A new structure for the EU itself. The block of 28 nations must be reorganised to prevent the nine countries that are not in the eurozone being dominated by the 19 member states that are, with particular protections for the City of London.

Neither side has waited to set up their lines of offence/defence and there seems to be a lot of far right Tories who do not like what they see.

According to journalists at the party conference "there was no missing the Eurosceptic mood among the grassroots."

What would happen if he lost? According to the Economist this week he would have to resign - as Alex Salmond did. If he resigned we could see the party move much more to the right under a more Eurosceptic leader such as Sajid Javiid or Michael Gove.

I imagine this would be the dream of some on here and the nightmare of others. Interesting times.

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Anya Mon 12-Oct-15 07:49:08

'Just MPs' ? His colleagues who might wish to have a say in who is to lead their party? Elected MPs.

Now isn't that a strange way of doing things grin

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Gracesgran Mon 12-Oct-15 08:53:57

Who ever the conservatives decide should vote for their leader, and I think Jen is right, only one class of the party do get to vote, a throw-back from a more stratified society I suppose, what I wonder is what is everyone's opinion of someone like Gove becoming PM?

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whitewave Mon 12-Oct-15 09:02:51

shock

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 20:29:17

Must Google it, but always thought it was the Conservative Party members ( full members!) along with elected Conservative MP's who voted for their leader. the MP's only put forward two candidates to choose from , or they did last time, as far as I know.

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soontobe Mon 12-Oct-15 20:43:48

Personally I think he would stay on if the vote was to leave Europe.
I dont see at all why he would need to resign.

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durhamjen Mon 12-Oct-15 20:52:30

Anyone can put themselves forward to be leader. They are voted on by MPs only until there are two candidates left. Then those final two are voted on by people who have been full members for at least three months.

Get your membership early 2017 if you want to vote.

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 20:53:42

No thanks.

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 20:58:34

I expect a massive surge of support for the Lib Dems next time around, they will come into power, it will be a massive landslide victory, or they will powershare with the Conservatives possibly.Just a daydream, obviously.
A nightmare, would be Labour under the beady eye of Corbyn as PM, however, that scenario is equally as unlikely as the first daydream.

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Charleygirl Mon 12-Oct-15 20:59:56

I will be emigrating with Luckygirl

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 21:00:48

Where will you go?

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durhamjen Mon 12-Oct-15 22:20:06

Good. More room for immigrants.

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Ana Mon 12-Oct-15 22:31:11

Only two.

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durhamjen Mon 12-Oct-15 22:34:42

Do you mean they will go on their own? No families?

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Ana Mon 12-Oct-15 22:45:55

You mean like so many of the young men fleeing from Syria?

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 22:53:23

If only people started reading posts properly.......
Charleygirl and Luckygirl would be emigrating (joke) if Gove became PM.

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Ana Mon 12-Oct-15 22:59:16

I know...who hasn't read the posts properly? confused

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 23:00:07

Djen

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rosesarered Mon 12-Oct-15 23:04:11

I assume the ' good. More room for immigrants' post was made because Djen thought they were leaving if Corbyn became PM.

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durhamjen Mon 12-Oct-15 23:11:34

I have read the posts properly. If anyone leaves there will be more room for immigrants. If people leave, others can come in without making any difference to migrant statistics. Of course the Tories would rather net migration was negative - more people leaving than coming in - as that would improve their migration statistics. Which is why I said families.
Note I said immigrants, not asylum seekers or refugees.
Immigrants are welcome by the Tories providing they have the right abilities and finance.

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durhamjen Tue 13-Oct-15 00:06:29

Will Cameron resign if he loses EU vote?
I hope so. He is a PR man. Nobody else gets near him in spinning.

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Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 09:39:53

Of course DJ read the posts correctly properly.

How could you imagine otherwise?

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Alea Tue 13-Oct-15 10:16:00

Is this one of the thread titles Jingj was referring to?

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jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 10:18:55

Eh?! What?! confused

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Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 10:23:41

Hopefully no one will have to leave because people will foresee what the possibility of a Gove government would mean smile

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rosesarered Tue 13-Oct-15 10:35:58

I can't see Gove as PM.

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