The Privy Council

And if one or two could tell barefaced lies to persuade others to vote to enter into war ......

Oh, I forgot, TB is a staunch Roman Catholic

Not a R C when we had the Iraq war

soon, you believe the queen who has spent sixty years making speeches, greeting many heads of state, meeting the public etc has never lied ?

soontobe, Corbyn must already have taken the affirmation (i.e. non-religious) form of the Oath when he became an MP. The Privy Council one is different only in that it's more wordy and makes more of the promise to support and defend the current monarch and his or her successors.

Religion, or lack of it, is not a problem. It's whether Corbyn could bring himself to promise to support/defend the monarchy that's in question.

anniebach perhaps became one afterwards so that he could go to confession and get absolution .....

He became a R C after he left office, his wife and children were R C, he could have gone to confession when an Anglican Rosequartz , I do,

he surely has sense to know just confessing does not mean absolution always follows

I think the Queen will not have lied.

Not lying is very very important in the Bible.

Is it soon? I think the queen lies

Who cares whether the Queen lies or not? What's that got to do with the price of fish or the OP? Get a grip...

Please do not boss, freedom to post within the rules of the forum not of other posters ,you are not in control so may I suggest you get a grip

Of course the queen lies. How can she get through the queen's speech without lying?

She is given words to read dj.
My majesty's government will do this and that.

Long time since I listened to the Queen's speech, so am unsure what she currently says.

You may suggest it, Anniebach, of course...

I'd still like to know why the subject of whether the Queen ever lies has even been introduced, let alone been considered pertinent to the thread.

God is the God of truth.

I will stop talking about God as this thread is not on the religious forum.

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You can affirm if you don't want to take the oath. Does anyone ever read the other posts on a thread? Or the OP, come to that?

Is the affirmation bit in the opening post?

Then Ana, why not settle for - shall we get back on message ?

I will if you will!

Off topic but I do find it a hoot when the queen opens parliament and announces - my government will - - - - , bet there were stamping of feet when she announced her government would abolish fox hunting

If I will what Ana? I do wander off topic as do others

The Privy Council is way past it's sell by date , bet it's an inconvenience for the queen and many members

I am beginning to agree; I am not against the monarchy and state occasions. However, this Council seems undemocratic and outdated and far too secretive.

If there has to be a Privy Council and Cameron is in it, then Corbyn should be. It will be interesting to see if his attitudes change after he is involved.

I noticed that Peter Oborne wrote the article. Good for him. Not really like a DM article, but he would not have been allowed to write that for the Barclay brothers in the Telegraph.