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What Martin Amis thinks of Jeremy Corbyn

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jinglbellsfrocks Sun 25-Oct-15 09:57:48

I'm with him on this

Tegan Tue 03-Nov-15 19:16:01

Well, it matters because it interests me. if it doesn't interest some of you then why are you even bothering to waste your time on this thread. Doesn't THAT smack of the playgroundconfused...?

rosesarered Tue 03-Nov-15 19:20:19

Oh, gone completely childish now, Anniebach laughable.

alchemillamollis Tue 03-Nov-15 19:31:28

Two Es at A-level - that is an accomplishment for an MP - I wonder how many other MPs can say that?

Martin Amis does indeed always seem bitter and twisted - can anyone expand on his far-right tendencies, please? That article is wrong about him being a leading anything, imo. He's the son of a leading novelist.

rosequartz Tue 03-Nov-15 19:44:20

Well, it matters because it interests me. if it doesn't interest some of you then why are you even bothering to waste your time on this thread. Doesn't THAT smack of the playground
Why - I am interested in what you may have to say Tegan, or anniebach or djen or rosesarered or ana or whitewave nigglenellie nonnie POGS Iam64 Eleoethan or ...... oh, sorry alchemillamollis, shall I go on sorry if I have left anyone out - shock *jinglbellsfrocks as it is her thread, so so sorry you should be first

But not really what slebs full of their own importance and rich as Croesus think, not really ..... because they think because they are well-known that they have an influence in how people should think.

durhamjen Tue 03-Nov-15 19:47:33

Tristram Hunt is an idiot because of what he said. He said that the Oxbridge 1% should take over the Labour leadership to save it from itself.
That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard a Labour politician say.

Alan Bennett and Sean Bean do like Corbyn, and what he says.
Perhaps you ought to read the OP again. It's about what Amis thinks of Corbyn.
Of course, if you want to argue, you could actually read the articles. Or you could just go back to the playground again.

Ana Tue 03-Nov-15 19:48:30

You mean it really 'matters' to you who likes Corbyn, Tegan? Why? He shouldn't need celebrity endorsement to make him more plausible as a potential PM, surely?

POGS Tue 03-Nov-15 19:49:13

You can go around and around in circles if all that is mentioned is who likes who, who dislikes who and flipping 'snobbery/ inverted snobbery and class warfare' is the only tool used to give meaning to to it .

For every post that says so and so likes Bill another can be produced somebody else prefers Ben.

rosesarered Tue 03-Nov-15 19:51:54

Sorry Roseq but am bailing out of this ridiculous thread, you are saying sensible things, but others grin ......... Less so!

Anniebach Tue 03-Nov-15 19:53:37

Tegan, seems freedom of speech is frowned upon here, for those not interested why continue reading, most odd, surely not to bicker and nit pick? Nah

Ana Tue 03-Nov-15 19:59:12

Freedom of speech? Don't make me laugh...it seems that all the political threads these days are the preserve of the socialists and no other view is welcome - in fact any upstarts who dare to disagree are virtually hounded off.

durhamjen Tue 03-Nov-15 19:59:28

Hold the front page! Roses agrees with Roseq shock!

I wonder how many family members Sean Bean has in Sheffield still?
Didn't Alan Bennett have lots of cousins in Leeds?

Maybe they will be influenced. Maybe all those who like Alan Bennett's work and Sean Bean's acting will be influenced. A single person has a single vote, but many more people will be influenced by them than by some one like me or any of you. Otherwise why was this thread started, if it wasn't about what a famous person thought of Jeremy Corbyn.

durhamjen Tue 03-Nov-15 20:00:30

Ana, have you ever been hounded off any thread?
Please enlighten us.

rosequartz Tue 03-Nov-15 20:01:50

Not picking nits again!

I know head lice are very contagious but .....

JamJar1 Tue 03-Nov-15 20:10:12

Sean Bean came from a wealthier background than his neighbours. His father employed 50 plus people, drove a Rolls and chose to stay living on a council estate. See Wiki,
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bean
not that any of this bothers me in anyway but just to point out things are sometimes not as they first seem. He also has a reputation of being a volatile person in real life, in his personal life.

rosequartz Tue 03-Nov-15 20:12:54

Things are often not what they seem JamJar1

Ana Tue 03-Nov-15 20:16:34

I said 'virtually' hounded off, durhamjen.

In case you don't know, the word means 'nearly or almost'.

Ana Tue 03-Nov-15 20:19:02

(well, you obviously don't know, otherwise you wouldn't have asked that very silly question...hmm)

durhamjen Tue 03-Nov-15 20:22:11

"Bean was born in Handsworth, a suburb of Sheffield, which was then part of West Riding of Yorkshire (the County of South Yorkshire was created in 1974). He is the son of Rita (née Tuckwood) and Brian Bean.[3] He has a younger sister named Lorraine. His father owned a fabrication shop which employed 50 people, including Bean's mother, who worked as a secretary. Despite becoming relatively wealthy (his father owned a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow), the family never moved away from the council estate as they preferred to remain close to friends and family.[4] As a child, Bean smashed a glass door during an argument, which left a piece of glass embedded in his leg that briefly impeded his walking and left a large scar.[3] This prevented him from pursuing his dream of playing football professionally."
What about the rest of the paragraph, Jamjar.

He went to a comprehensive, came out with two o levels, worked in a supermarket, etc.
Not quite a rich boy trying to hide his roots. As I said, he has a lot of friends and family there, whom he could possibly affect by his comments.

POGS Tue 03-Nov-15 20:37:11

B---y class warfare.

The circle goes around and around but all that could happen is the circumference gets bigger and bigger as somebody will mention so and so likes Corbyn, another shows so and so likes Cameron. Both people who can be found to say they like them were educated in state schools, both people wealthy, both people well known.

So what! I am simply surprised that so much notice is taken of 'celebrities' , hardly a cross section of the voting public who will hopefully use their brain , watch, learn and listen and establish a view for themselves, not take a blind bit of notice to what Wayne Rooney or Mary Poppins think.

nigglynellie Tue 03-Nov-15 20:53:35

Wow!!!

rosequartz Tue 03-Nov-15 22:49:42

A single person has a single vote, but many more people will be influenced by them than by some one like me or any of you.
You're probably right djen because unfortunately people can be very sheep-like and if they admire someone for their acting abilities or other reason for fame they may copy their political leanings and not think for themselves.

I prefer to read and think and follow some of the links on here posted by people I may not have thought had the same views as me and links I may not have known about - and having a good think about them.

rosequartz Tue 03-Nov-15 22:53:47

I do like Mary Poppins's attitude to life though POGS smile

worked in a supermarket (like me!) Well, there you are, it may have been lowly and demeaning and lacking in dignity but he did work his way up to be a famous actor!! You have to start somewhere and the thing about doing a job which you don't particularly like that doesn't pay well, it spurs you on to better yourself.
Is that the wrong thread again?

Eloethan Wed 04-Nov-15 00:12:58

As durhamjen pointed out, the originator of the thread, jingle, did not actually make a political point - she just posted an article in which Martin Amis made some rather rude remarks about Jeremy Corbyn. (It should perhaps be borne in mind that MA has said many things which, in my view, make his opinions as to what makes a good or bad political leader rather suspect - such as: "women have almost got too many powers for the harmony of their own lives" and "there will be a population of demented very old people, like an invasion of terrible immigrants, stinking out the hospitals and cafes and shops ...." ).

I do agree that, logically, it should make no difference which high profile people do or do not not support a party or political figure. But I have to admit I find it quite reassuring that JC and the left of the political spectrum do not seem to appeal to the likes of Vinnie Jones, John McCririck, Simon Cowell, etc.

People on the left who are successful and wealthy are sneered at and described as "champagne socialists", as if having money means they should have neither the inclination nor the right to be concerned about the huge degree of inequality that exists. At the same time, people on the left who don't have high powered careers and lots of money are described as "envious" or "inverted snobs".

Ana How exactly have you or anyone else been "almost hounded" off a thread"?

nigglynellie Wed 04-Nov-15 07:09:57

Anyone with other than far left views can be subjected to being regarded as someone akin to Ghengis Khan and howled down accordingly which can be intimidating but when you look at left wing marches, not unsurprising.
As for champagne socialists, it can get pretty tedious being lectured by these extremely wealthy people about things that won't actually affect them one way or the other, i.e., education, how many of their children attend the local Comp, good or bad? The NHS? doubt they're on the waiting list! Alan Bennett ( whose work I love) by his own admission went privately for his cancer treatment, costing him many thousands of pounds. How sensible and I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem with the attitude of don't do as I do, do as I say, even more so from left wing politicians.

Anniebach Wed 04-Nov-15 08:33:30

So the likes of Alan Bennett shouldn't have any concern for anything which does not affect him directly nigglenellie ? What you don't understand is not everyone turns up at the ballot box with just one thought - what's in it for me , that is the Thatcherite way , you remember surely - greed is good