Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

Is that from 'yes' to 'no', Wilma or from one to the other?

As he said it in private he must have been among friends , he isn't wise in choice of friends is he . Yet it could be a case of - make sure this gets into the media old boy

Why on earth would he do that, given the flak he's getting (and was bound to get)?

I think it was said at the 1922 committee, which is a committee of Tory MPs.

ISIS are active in 18 different countries. How does bombing them in Syria and Iraq help at all?

Both the polls I mentioned were open to all, not just Labour.

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Only look at this if you really want to.
It's a speech made by Goering in the Nuremberg trials.

Watching Sir Edward Leigh - very moving.

Bombing Syria will not help, it will make the world a more dangerous place

I thought the speech by Labour MP John Mann was perfectly balanced. He is voting no by the way.

He joined the bandwagon asking for an apology from Cameron for what he said. THEN he looked at his front bench and told them they should do the same over the harassment of Labour MP's that has/is taking place.

I believe it is true Stella Creasy did have to leave the house due to her staff receiving abuse. Interesting to know who or what organisation is so pathetic.

I say bandwagon because I felt that at the start of the debate the MP's who asked Cameron to give way were only interested in asking for an apology and wasted time, showed a lack of interest in the debate , made asses out of themselves by not asking any questions related to Syria or the debate. Thank goodness those who have spent more time in the house and looked like they are truely debating achieved to make their point they didn't like what Cameron said but they made their case in an appropriate manner by putting the seriousness of the debate/vote as their objective not as the others had done making it all about their personal hurt.

Listening to Margaret Beckett - inspired speech, she has swayed me to support the bombing.

Not sure what the point of posting that last link was, dj.
It doesn't address any of the arguments for or against the bombing.

janeinsworth

No argument from me, see my earlier post . She gave an excellent speech and I believe the better speeches such as hers , Alan Johnson and Yvette Cooper are all coming from those MP's who have held posts in defence positions whilst in government.

dj was obviously attempting, rather pathetically, to liken Cameron to Goering.

No ana you misunderstand. It is the arguments used -the character matters not a jot, except the context in which it used

If you say so, whitewave.

Oh I do ana I do

The association is still there though - and how do you or I know what dj meant to convey?

Because I am brilliant

Whitewave, I like it

Yes you are, whitewave.

It obviously still works.

But wrong...

I've been pressed by most speakers on both sides. How I wish that Alan Johnson had wanted to be the labour leader.
I thought Cameron made an error of judgement in his comments about terrorist sympathisers. I dislike the nasty behaviour mp's like Stella Creasy are being subjected to and felt AJ was right to make the comments he did about that.

Aw shucks!

Oh dear this was jogging along so well and it is a long day for us all to get through.

Well said Doctor Sarah Wollaston

She has caught word for word everything I have tried to say on GN but perhaps I didn't put it so succinctly.