Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

WILMA in Annie's defence DC has been known as Flashman for ever.

Thank you for the link jamjar.

AnnieBach unfortunately it is left wing activists carrying out the abuse and Jeremy Corbyn has made it clear he doesn't support the action and tried to distance himself from it.

Wilma, he is well known as Flashman and I think me referring to a name which has been with him for years is nothing compared to him calling me a terrorist sympathiser , I have a right to be angered by this insult

Whitewave I do understand that, but given we're criticising DC for his 'terrorist sympathisers' comment, it doesn't seem appropriate right now, especially given the serious subject under discussion. Perhaps I am wrong though.

Wilma, in fairness I think Corbyn has distanced himself from it not just tried to.

No right or wrong Wilma, I feel justified in calling him Flashman after he called me a terrorist sympathiser, your right to feel justified in saying differently

Good speech from David Davies

Listening to some speeches you wonder how on earth some people made it to become an MP

Excellent speech from Margaret Beckett giving support. I liked her Kosovo remark , another country in trouble Corbyn voted against action being taken.

Excellent speech from Alan Johnson and his comment re finger wagging and he made a direct reference to Labour MP's on the receiving end of ' internal harrassment ' in a wry manner but none the less pointed.

Crispin Blunt Good

Yvette Cooper another excellent speech .

Nusrat Ghani spoke intelligently about the ideology .

Nigel Dodds DUP. Good speech spoke passionately.

Tim Farron , surprised me I thought he spoke very well.

So far the only one I have thought gave a good speech for voting no is Julien Lewis because he spoke knowledgeably and made valid points to ponder.

I am minded that those in favour who have spoken with intelligent comments and understood the problem have held positions whilst in government at some time or another in security/defence roles whilst in government positions.

I have to let go of the hurt from Cameron's insult by this evening. All the churches in our town, R C, Anglican , Methodists, Quakers, Baptists are joining together in a one hour vigil 10pm to 11 PM . Hope it stops raining or our candles will go out !

Oh annie! That makes me tearful.

The conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi was born in Baghdad to Kurdish parents, they had to flee from Sadam Hussein's tyrany .

He said during the debate he had just had contact with a mother ,can't remember where I think it was Iraq but she said how long can she let her children see decapitated heads on sticks every day. She is not anti intervention

IF I thought it would do any good I would certainly light a candle for her and I am not being sarcastic .

Oh pogs!!!

Perhaps it was all that cosying up to the IRA that provoked the 'terroist' comment. Even comments applauding them for the Brighton bombing along with very unkind remarks about Margaret Tebbit. bombings were totally acceptable in those days by J C, in fact lauded. Funny how now they're not, could this be linked to pro terrorism? Just a thought, nothing more!

Another grounded speech from Labour MP Dan Jarvis , he spoke with a military understanding and looked Cameron in the eye and said he will be voting with the government.

At least Cameron is still on the front bench !!

Whitewave, we are not gathering to pray for the vote to go one way or the other , just to send our thoughts to all who suffer , be it at the hands of terrorists or the hands of greed for power , greed for Money or the need for revenge. I just receive a phone call from a Hindu couple who asked if they could join us , they are now contacting friends to join us, wonderful , just wonderful

I confess I will send up one sneaky prayer - please stop the rain for an hour

True Nellie, just a thought,

A strong speech from Caroline Lucas - not surprisingly. I have been generally impressed by the majority of speeches even where I think they are wrong.

Brilliant speeches by Alan Johnson and Yvette Cooper, and a reasonable one from Tim Farron.Cameron does not have to apologise ( may have been diplomatic to do so to the House) but his remarks were said away from the Chamber and in private, so it becomes up to him to apologise or not. Maybe they were his honest feelings, we all like politicians to be honest don't we?
Corbyn and McDonnell have had some very dodgy friends in the past!
Watched as much as I had time for today ( and you can only take so much debate anyway.)

Same for me Gracesgran,

Make sure the candle is not too heavy, Anniebach.

Just had an email from my MP saying she is voting against, so I've written back to thank her.

On two polls I've seen over 90% of those responding were disgusted with Cameron's statement. Cameron knows that whatever he said in this situation would get out. He didn't even need to tweet it himself.

Who did they poll? Just Labourites or a cross-section of voters?

Apart from the rabble noise, I agree the speakers have all been worth listening to so far.

Anniebach You are right about JC actually distancing himself from any such behaviour. He's an honourable man and would never condone such behaviour. Some people mistake not condoning something with supporting it. I hope it stays dry for you tonight. {{{HUGS}}}

The speakers who have impressed me the most are those who have a personal connection or personal experience with the Middle East. Also I have always had respect for Caroline Lucas and she didn't disappoint today.

A YouGov spokesman has just been on R5 explaining just how complicated the various polls are at the moment. His latest stats show one third against, just under half in favour and the rest undecided.

Apparently up to 20 MPs say they have changed their position from yes/no.

Ana the poll I heard about was cross section.