Labour MP's harassment

But nigglenellie only thought protests outside Russian embassy, I post,Italy asked should we also demonstrate outside the French, American and Chinese embassy but no reply

risesarered has answred fir you nigglenellie, all not just Russian

rose, this is exactly what I was trying to say, probably rather clumsily, and that while the pros and cons of bombing are discussed, the discussion never includes people's opinion of what Russia's involvement is, let alone what those who vehemently oppose bombing under any circumstances feel about the indiscriminate bombing conducted by Russia and their support of Assad.
If you're condemning one section of this campaign, surely you must condemn all. I personally am a Hilary Benn supporter over this, with his same feelings of regret. Russia worries me much more as they seem to have no qualms about who, what or how they conduct their campaign, maybe they just have a totally different attitude to other people, and obviously aren't answerable to anyone. I don't think precision bombing is part of their remit, just terrify, destroy and kill whoever.

But nigglenellie, you questioned protesting against Russia because you claim they are a socialist country, now if you had said all countries I could have given my opinion, I got confused when you wanted demonstrations against Russia but not America or France

I didn't mention western countries because demonstrations against them are fairly common and no big deal in the way of things. Demonstrations against Russia almost never happen anywhere, whatever they do, even as in this case they are blatently as culpable as any one else, so why are they are virtually never vilified as western countries always are?

But they are , you were concerned with them being an allegedly socialist country , I asked should not all countries be condemned , you didn't reply

I think any country that behaves towards its neighbours, it's citizens and bombs cities indiscriminately like Russia does should be made to feel the disaproval/disgust/outrage of other people, exactly like western countries do. But for some curious reason it simply never does. I couldn't care what Russia's political system is, it's certainly not democracy as we know it. Why is she never ever criticised by those who are so vocal when it's western countries who offend.

I agree with you niggly of course the protesters of STW should target ALL the embassies if they feel this way and that includes the Russian one.

Then why did you bring socialism into it nigglenellie ? it had nothing to do with the bombing of Syria

There is so much information available to tell you Stop The War considers the West/EU/America are wholely to blame for Ukraine's problems, not Russia.

Perhaps that is why grumppa mentioned Ukraine, just guessing.

The West is always to blame for all the ills of the world in the opinion of people on the far left. No doubt the bombing Russia engages in is the fault of the West as well as Ukraine, and Crimea. Hence my reference to socialism, obviously criticism of Russia is a big No. No.

Nigglynellie , perhaps you con explain why some of the STW who are not socialists - Greens, Libs, Independents and of no political interest are not demonstrating at the Russian embassy and why the socialists are not demonstrating outside the American embassy and why the STW are not demonstrating at any embassy be it east or west

I've just googled STW's position on Russian bombing in Syria. I as the surprised to have it confirmed that the organisation is opposed to any bombing in Syria.

I'm completely confused now!

'Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR): although the actual categorization of the USSR's economic system is in dispute, it is often considered to be a form of centrally-planned socialism.'

Is this definition untrue, Anniebach?

I really don't know, and that was not what my original question was. I was asking why, whereas the West is demonstrated against, where ever or whenever, whether about bombing, or invading, annexing other people's countries, Russia never is. It's a simple question, deliberately misunderstood. Actually, I'm pretty bored with this now, and frankly I can't be bothered to discuss it anymore.

I know that wasn't your question or your point, nigglynellie. It seemed to be of concern to Anniebach though, which was why I asked the question.

My, I don't know, was in answer to ab Ana, not you, and I'm sorry if it sounded as if In was being rude to you! As I said I've no idea why this is of importance, as my question was perfectly straight forward as you clearly realise!!!!

No problem niggly, I didn't think that at all!

What I think some of us find difficult to grasp is that groups like STW and its supporters, and some Gransnetters, are always keen, as they have every right to be, to criticise western democracies, for whose activities we as voters are ultimately responsible, but seem unable or unwilling to criticise countries such as Russia, whose use of force is if anything even less scrupulous than the West's.

Perhaps the fellow travellers are still on the road.

Is there such a place as the USSR any more?

Exactly grumppa, this is what I was querying, criticism for western countries, and justification for Russia - why?! a tad hypocritical I'd say.

Seems there is Jen, expect no one told Russia

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Who has justified what Russia has done, nigglie?
The STWC is against all bombing, not just bombing by the west. However, they cannot do anything about Russia. They can try to stop the west from bombing. The STWC is a western coalition which wants to stop all wars in the middle east. That's what it was set up for. It does not condone what Russia is doing. Can you show me where it does?