It must be using false names on here
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Having read the headline perhaps Cameron can reflect on Christian values of faith, hope and charity and look to his conscience for guidance concerning the more unfortunate people both at home and abroad! Where is kindness, support and understanding in government policy? Is it really Christian to see people in poverty, the NHS a shambles whilst our leaders are revelling in their million £ homes and tasting all the good things life has to offer. Perhaps he thinks that charity begins in his home and doesn't extend further than his circle mates.
Anyway, my Christmas message is to help and support all those who are less well off than ourselves in whatever small way we can. Happy Christmas all and please forgive the grouch. (I'm an aetheist (spelling has deserted me on this Christmas eve) - I must be getting older!)
It must be using false names on here
I liked your post, niggly. Sarcastic, maybe. Bit bitchy, maybe. Funny, definitely. All three are allowed and all three will be interpreted differently according to senses of humour (or lack thereof), perceptions of other posters' viewpoints and so on. Keep up the good work 
Just for the record, I often think posts of yours sarcastic and bitchy, djen. You may well think the same about mine. Big deal. Not.
Was that necessary, bags?
Why not? It can be helpful to learn what others who don't usually get embroiled in partisan threads think of one's posts, surely?
Oh, I wouldn't say it was funny. A little bit too 'old hat' for that. Not really original. But nothing to get the old under-garments shifted over either.
We old warriors can easily take that stuff on the chin.
Effin' toughen up, the lot of yer. 
Crikey Bags. You nearly wrote a thesis on it there.

Night night. Mwah.
' “For me, there are no new year’s resolutions, just the resolve to continue delivering what we promised in our manifesto,” said the prime minister, naming the problems of low home ownership, poverty, poor social mobility and extremism as his four priorities in 2016.
“If we really get to grips with these problems this year, we won’t just be a richer nation, but a stronger, more unified, more secure one,” he said. “It won’t be easy. These problems have been generations in the making. And many of them are tangled together.” '
From Cameron's speech. Hard to believe that his government has made poverty, home ownership, social mobility and extremism worse over the last five years.
Oh, give it rest.
At least my comments are about the topic, not just niggling away at what other people have written.
I always thought that was the point of this forum. If you do not want to take part, you know what you can do.
I shall ignore that. Anyone is entitled to post their opinions or comments on any thread on GN, and they don't need your permission.
You have to remember djen that your comments are exactly that, your own comments and not facts. Slating everything that Cameron does and says so relentlessly, while treating Corbyn's moves and pronouncements as Gospel from up high is very wearing for the Gnetters who have to read it to get to the next posting.
I agree, anyone is allowed to post their opinions and comments if within the rules of the forum, the same applies to links yet sarcastic posts pop up so often about posting links , posting links does not need permission ?
I don't understand why there aren't more threads about all the positive things that the current government are doing; I'd be quite happy to read them [even if they would be 'partisan']. Please feel free to educate me
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We have had many threads with discussions like that Tegan but they always end with our resident Socialists browbeating, link-ing, and generally carrying on alarmingly, so much so that nobody wants to comment.I think we can be sure that they exist though, as Labour have been beaten in the last two General Elections.
Charlie Brooker's 2015 Wipe is positively ....... about the government.
Very educational.
A thread like that would get taken over Tegan .....
Sometimes threads have meandered right away from the OP and it is difficult to bring them back on course, but we can try:
Back to the OP:
Is it really Christian to see people in poverty
No, but can we be comforted by the fact that "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"?
(Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke)
or
But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.?
(Timothy)
And certainly the leaders in the NHS, the EA, the police, quangoes etc are revelling in their million £ homes and tasting all the good things life has to offer at the expense of what they are supposed to be providing for the rest of us.
Am I not part of anyone?
Am I not allowed to put my opinions and comments on any thread?
You can ignore them. Feel free. Just as I will ignore yours.
You forgot to mention MPs, roseq, who have just accepted a rather large pay rise when they could have refused it.
Of course you may djen
You may ignore my religious post (and any other!)
Anyone can say anything, can't they, unless it is a personal attack?
Teetime do you usually eat muffins for breakfast? Do you mean the
sort or the English Breakfast muffins, split, toasted and buttered?
You forgot to mention MPs, roseq,
probably they were included in my etc djen
- an after-thought!
No more important than an afterthought - the people who decide the laws for others to follow?
By the way, the previous comment wasn't aimed at your religious thoughts.
Rosequartz if anything is not quite right with the NHS, the EA, the police etc it is because the senior managers are paid to much? You talk as if they are being paid millions. As far as I am concerned a job like running a hospital trust is incredibly demanding and horribly responsible.
A senior hospital consultant can earn nearly £200k. I don't see why the most senior NHS managers should not be on similar rates of pay. They pay a their taxes of course and they don't get many perks.
Our local NHS has recently had to search for a new Chief Exec and I really don't think they need someone mediocre to steer them under difficult circumstances.
Things are going badly wrong in NHS England because Hunt and Osborne are on a mission to undermine it and thus strengthen the private healthcare sector. Some of their tactics are:
Privatising chunks of NHS England without an electoral mandate or a parliamentary debate.
Starving trusts of the funding they need to cope with increasing demand.
Introducing a dotty 24/7 policy and using it as an excuse to try to make junior hospital doctors work longer hours. Leading to increased emigration of doctors - much more serious than a one day strike.
And the latest deliberately vicious move - reducing the public subsidy for nurse training so that they will be burdened with the same student loans as those studying normal university degrees.
You've been reading newspapers owned by foreign billionaires again haven't you. Don't you get fed up with having your opinions formed by this bunch of interfering foreigners who don't pay UK tax?
Rosequartz
You've been reading newspapers owned by foreign billionaires again haven't you
Totally
by that very rude and personal remark. I don't generally read a newspaper, if I do it may be one of several going free or online.
If you really must know, more often than not I read the Cairns Post online.
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