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I'm definitely for LEAVING. Even if it was proved that the country would be slightly worse off I would still vote to leave. It would be worth it to gain our freedom from such a corrupt organisation.
3 million jobs would be at risk. That's a lie.
The person wrote that comment only said 3 million were involved in industries which sold to the EU. They would still continue to deal with the EU if we left. The report was also written many years ago so if we have not increased that figure over the years it shows there has been NO growth!!!.
Voting in!
I voted in first time , will do so again, just wish some could forget the great in Great Britain , that's gone.
I agree. They can't, so why change the status quo? One thing is for sure and that's if we leave now, we won't get back in for decades.
Why not stay in and vote for MEPs who might actually turn up and work to improve the wealthiest economic bloc on the planet?
They're all timelords, annie ~lol~
I never think of us as Great Britain any more. The UK is more usual these days which sounds OK to me.
Did anyone see Newsnight last evening? Damien Green was being interviewed about the migration issue. He said that the fact we have the 'border' for the UK at Calais and Dunkirk is due to a friendly agreement with France as two members of the EU and we pay towards that upkeep etc. He said it is not up to France to keep the migrants on that side of the channel and if we vote to leave the EU they will be quite entitled to remove the facility from Calais - in which case they will allow the migrants to cross the channel and once they are on UK soil can immediately claim asylum. It was suggested that Dave could be scaremongering and he said no - it was fact.
How can anyone think that voting out will stop the migration - it won't - if anything it will be made easier as no checks to stop them till they get to Dover.
I voted in the first time and will vote in this time. We need close relationships with our European neighbours and share a culture more similar to those countries than with the US for example.
I agree that the UK is a much better way of describing us than GB. Any doubts I may have had about remaining in the EU are blown away by looking at the most well known Out supporters - i.e. Boris, Kate Hooey, George Galloway, Michael Gove, Chris Grayling. What a shower!
It's French police stopping the migrants crossing to the UK, do they think we can send British soldiers into France , we need Europe
Welshwife, It IS fact. Border control is in Calais to ease up congestion in Dover. I think it was introduced when the Eurotunnel was completed. If you travel by Eurostar, border control takes place on the train, but once the train leaves the station, you're legally in a new country.
Great Britain is a geographical term to describe Scotland, Wales and England. It doesn't include Northern Ireland.
So we can forget Great Britain because N Ireland is part of this country , I never think of it as Great Britain anyway, it's the UK for me
daphnedill, I'm voting out because I'm sick of the amount of money we have to give, sick of migrants coming in while our money is getting cut
As a Scot I'll vote in as I did before despite finding it uncomfortable to be 'on the same side' as Cameron!
But, snowted, the migrants will still come, straight through the tunnel without being stopped in Calais. As soon as the train leaves the station they will be counted as being in Britain. France will not stop them leaving Calais.
Money goes in both directions, and we would spend on red tape and export costs to keep up the trade we now have with EU countries, and our children , grandchildren and greatgrandchildren would lose out on the opportunities for study and work in a larger pool, and contact with their contemporaries abroad.
Previously I was only generally for in, because in a global world isolation is a difficult place to be, but I am becoming more of a inner than an outer as time goes on and I learn more about the subject.
My only reservation would be that I am not that keen to become a "United States of Europe". A friend from the USA made the assumption very early on that Europe was just copying the wonderful example that the US had shown, but the thought doesn't appeal to me. I hope there is a different way forward for Europe.
We get nowhere near as much money back as we put in
You know that for certain? Not just what we get back as cash, but what we make out of it in trade and advantages by being in it? If you have figures and facts for all of that, then please do post them.
Elegran, My experience of (some) Americans is that they think Europe is just one big country like the US anyway.
I shall vote in. Having said that, I'm glad we aren't part of the Eurozone.
Elegran I don't think that increased political union can be forced on member states, now or in the future.
At the moment I'm still sitting on the fence as I don't yet understand all the pros and cons. I try to ignore the politics (and the politicians who are only in it for their own self-promotion anyway) and look at what would be best for the UK as a whole. One thing I'm pretty sure of is that by June we're all going to be sick to death of the media coverage!
Daphnedill the border controls were the UK side for a few years after the tunnel was opened. - when we first used the tunnel there were checks at each border when you 'landed'. French passport control is at all the ports now - including Portsmouth. The French can stop the UK doing the checks on their soil at any time. There was not a lot of holdup when you got to your landing port as in effect a red and green lane operated the same as the airports.
Thanks for that, ww. I couldn't remember. I used Eurostar before I used the car tunnel and border control people came on to the train. I remember being delayed a couple of hours in Dover at times when using the ferry. You're right though. France could stop allowing the UK to use its soil for border control and the UK would have a much bigger problem.
Roll on June and putting all this behind us ( one way or t'other.)
Snowdrop if you have a look back through this thread, you'll find lots of links to sources of information that are not linked to political parties or the in/out camps. There are some links like that, but hopefully the information in the post will help you decide whether to give something a miss. 
Wilma thanks, will have a look through.
fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
What the UK pays to the EU, according to www.fullfact.org
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