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Boris Johnson

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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 20-Feb-16 22:39:19

grin Lol about dj suggesting assassination of Boris. shock

Ana Sat 20-Feb-16 21:40:01

Yes, it should have been 'Johnson's is the sort of character...etc.' Thought that would have been obvious to a former teacher.

rosesarered Sat 20-Feb-16 21:28:04

Yes, Boris is combing his hair now, is this ominous?

rosesarered Sat 20-Feb-16 21:26:43

I had to do a double take when I read your post djen then realised you meant that his character should be assassinated, not him! grin
It's an eats shoots and leaves thing.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 19:37:57

dj, yes.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 18:21:49

Grammatically, "Johnson's the sort of character that should be assassinated." means that he is the sort of character ie person, not that he has such a character ie nature. A subtle difference, but it changes the kind of assassination greatly! I'd better bake that cake to be on the safe side.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 18:17:17

The ordinary voters must have thought Cameron wasn't too bad a bet as an MP then, to get him into Parliament in the first place, as they must have thought that the other Conservative MPs weren't too bad a bet either, and the ordinary MPs - most of whom didn't go to Eton - must have thought he wasn't too bad a bet as leader of the party.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 18:11:32

Elegran, you do not need to be voted in by your Eton colleagues. You get voted in by the ordinary voters.
Then your Eton colleagues put you in the cabinet alongside them, just to ensure their dominance in the government.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 18:08:37

Do you feel the same about Corbyn's appearance, bags?

By the way, we were talking about character assassination, not real assassination, just in case you had not realised.

I am still here. Haven't been picked up or picked off by the thought police.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 16:53:43

I don't like BJ. I don't find his appearance attractive but I don't think that matters. I can't think of a single politician whose appearance I do 'like'. If a person is dressed in a semblance of decency that's all I ask.

Nor do I dislike him and I'd be horrified if he were assassinated just as I'd be horrified if any other British politician were assassinated.

I do like his apparently not caring about "causing offence" about stupid stuff like messy hair and a flapping jacket though. Stuff like that is very low in importance in the big scheme of things. It's the kind of eccentricity that we could do with a bit more of.

No idea, as yet, which way I'll vote. I voted in to the Common Market, but the Common Market isn't and wasn't the EU. I don't think trade will suffer if we leave because the EU sells more to us than we do to them and besides, there's a lot of the rest of the world to trade with, which we do already.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 16:49:02

Shall we all visit you in the Tower, durhamjen? We could bake a file into a cake and ice it nicely.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 16:34:50

Just reading this thread. Been away and busy so I'm catching up with GN.

I got to this from durhamjen: "Johnson's the sort of character that should be assassinated." shock shock shock ‼️

I'll carry on reading now.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 16:22:20

But what if your Eton friends don't all live in the same constituency where they can vote you in? They wouldn't be able to help you ion return then. What if they didn't much like you at school so vote against you, would you still want to them get rich quick? What if some of them are mavericks who prefer to vote for the left? Or even leak doctored photos of you apparently doing unspeakable things while a student? Life is full of problems for those who cheat, safer to make political decisions for more reputable motives.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 16:03:40

Not quite millions, Elegran.
Only just over 20,000 for most seats. Then you only need to have gone to Eton to be able to help your rich friends.

Ana Sat 20-Feb-16 13:21:30

Yes, I noticed he's had his hair cut!

I don't think enough people would vote for him to be PM, he's too much of a 'personality'.

janepearce6 Sat 20-Feb-16 13:09:01

I really do think this country would be stupid to have Boris as PM - he is doing his hair at the moment but when he gets his way, he will slip to be the bumbling fool he thinks we all know and love. All he does is for Boris - I think he is probably rather an unpleasant man.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 10:01:25

If their only motive for entering politics is to make as much money as possible, they are deluded - there are much quicker and surer ways of making a fortune, and most of them can be done without attracting as much public attention to the way it is acquired.

Likewise, if the main aim of a politician is to help his/her friends to make as much money as possible, they need first of all to have millions of friends who will vote them into a position where they can achieve that.

grumppa Fri 19-Feb-16 20:17:15

I dealt with many MPs in the three main parties over many years on behalf of the industry which employed me. On the whole they were genuinely trying to do their best for their constituents and were understanding of my industry's views and concerns, even if they didn't agree with us. Most of them are just like us.

Members of the HoL, not having constituents to think of, were often a pain in the neck; others were a pleasure to work with.

Some ministers were clearly out of their depth, others were arrogant and self-satisfied.

But they were all human beings. One really shouldn't overgeneralise about them.

Jane10 Fri 19-Feb-16 19:35:27

I don't know of a single trustworthy politician. In fact I don't expect them to be. I'm surprised that you lot keep on hoping. Au revoir!

Eloethan Fri 19-Feb-16 19:29:45

Jane10 There have been strong indications that Boris Johnson has his sights on the Conservative leadership - and it has been reported that he has quite a lot of support from within the party. Given that this is a possibility and that most voters have indicated that they do not like politicians who are untrustworthy and dishonest, I think it is perfectly reasonable to reflect on the way Boris Johnson has conducted himself as Mayor of London, and on the many pledges he has made but later reneged on.

whitewave Fri 19-Feb-16 16:11:31

Oh yes what was that about I have forgotten?

annodomini Fri 19-Feb-16 12:46:26

I treasure the memory of Eddie Mair's interview with BJ, regarding B's close friendship with Darius Guppy, a convicted fraudster. Mair called Boris (to his face) a nasty piece of work.

Elegran Fri 19-Feb-16 12:45:33

Aka a closed shop.

Jane10 Fri 19-Feb-16 12:44:01

Why do I never remember not to venture into a 'bash the Tories' thread! confused

obieone Fri 19-Feb-16 11:43:12

Him not answering questions properly ties in with JessM's link above.
And I had forgotten mostly about his affairs.
He seems to be a lot more about style than substance.
It may work him being a leader of an Out campaign, but Prime Minister? hmm.