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Boris Johnson

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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

Ana Sun 21-Feb-16 09:51:42

What an odd thing to say...hmm

Ana Sun 21-Feb-16 09:52:10

(that was to ab)

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 10:21:47

Why is it an odd thing to say Ana?

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 10:59:11

Anniebach

Maybe because it is a comment that can quickly backfire on the user as various other MP's and indeed ' Ministers ' can be mentioned over their so called marital infidelities.

If infidelity is a reason to believe an MP should not hold their position then 'both sides of the House' would have a few vacant seats, back and FRONT benches too.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 11:00:39

Still a comment I can make, I spoke of abortion

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 11:06:38

Anniebach

Why did you say if Boris Johnson becomes PM we will see no change in the abortion laws?

It seems to me there are some crass posts by those who appear to have a vehement dislike of Boris Johnson. Surprised, sadly not.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 11:10:37

I don't know Boris Johnson to like or dislike, I don't think any comments on a man who has a record of affairs and supporting a mistress to have an abortion is a crass comment

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:07:45

Anniebach

You are correct you do not know whether or not Boris Johnson would never change the Abortion Law because you do not, as you now state, know what he likes or does not like. So by stating as you did in your post ' if he bocomes PM we can be ASSURED there will be no change in abortion laws' you were talking rubbish.

As for his infidelity I am not joining in with you by pointing out the names of other Ministers/MP's of political parties who have no different a track record just to bring some kind of unbiased thinking on the subject. Why, because to my mind it is not only crass to mention it as a way of trying to put over a personal dislike of a person but it is also a peurile exercise in how to loose others interest in what we have to say if tittle tattle/partisan politics is all we come up with.

Eloethan Sun 21-Feb-16 12:19:01

There may be different views as to whether a male (or female|) MP having an extra-marital affair is grounds for marking them down. I feel that if the same rule were applied to the general population then quite a lot of people would be deemed unfit to enter politics. If, however, I knew that a politician had behaved extremely badly towards their spouse and/or the person with whom they were having an affair (such as in the Cecil Parkinson case), this would affect my view of them. I don't see why offering support to a woman who decides to have an abortion is a bad thing - unless "offering support" is a euphemism for applying pressure.

If I were a Conservative, I wouldn't need to look at BJ's slightly tawdry personal life to come to the conclusion that I would not like him to be a leader. His record of broken pledges and questionable deals would be enough to put me off.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 12:26:45

His is untrustworthy in his political and private life

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:31:43

He has joined a Gert big club then on both sides of politics.

thatbags Sun 21-Feb-16 12:38:51

Character assassination in all its glory. Oh well, we were warned hmm Doesn't make one eager to read further comments by the assassinators.

Apparently, BJ is going to "announce" his decision about Brexit tomorrow in the Telegraph. Can't wait [sarc emoji]

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 12:47:23

Thatbags

I think he could possibly be an 'Outer' and I think it will be to do with the agreement Cameron has achieved and the weakness over the UK's Finance Industry protection in the EU.

Who knows but as you say it will be interesting when he declares his decision but at least he has waited to make a considered decision, or so he he has given the appearance of doing confused.

Ana Sun 21-Feb-16 12:53:00

Apparently his decision is going to be Tweeted at 10 o'clock tonight (for anyone who just can't wait...)

mischief Sun 21-Feb-16 13:12:05

Boris Johnson will make his decision according to what is best for Boris Johnson. I don't believe he will ever put the country before his career. OK he's an 'adorable puppy' and that's OK in local politics but I cringe at the prospect of him representing Great Britain on the world stage.

obieone Sun 21-Feb-16 13:25:01

Ironically, he might probably be good at representing GB on the world stage.
More debatable whether he would do the nitty gritty of daily politics as Pm well.

I will remember for another time that a thread goes where it does.

POGS Sun 21-Feb-16 16:58:13

Well at least we know now Boris Johnson is voting to 'LEAVE'.

He should now just settle down to put good , strategic , intellectual points across that we can understand . Not the time for anything else is it.

Elrel Sun 21-Feb-16 18:11:04

Huge scrum of tv etc outside his house, many of them from European networks!

Riverwalk Sun 21-Feb-16 18:19:05

He's Mayor of London and MP for Uxbridge - I'm wondering why the country is agog at what he has to say!

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 18:32:57

Because if he had chosen the stage instead of politics he would be an Oscar winner

durhamjen Sun 21-Feb-16 19:32:01

Do you think Boris and Gove will toss a coin to be leader of the Outs?

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 19:39:40

No Jen, they are too crafty for that

whitewave Sun 21-Feb-16 21:21:49

Johnson is busy plotting for the leadership. All the potential contenders are in the stay camp. So I guess he reckons he has a clear field if the vote goes to the leave decision. Cameron will be done for and Johnson can claim a victory. A bit of a high risk strategy as nothing is certain, but my bet is that is what he hopes will happen.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 21:37:25

Why else was he dressed in suit, white shirt and tie with his hair combed for his tv appearance today, heir to Cameron , bet Osbourne us spitting nails

Jane10 Sun 21-Feb-16 21:39:21

Ah the cartoon view of British politics. Hilarious *irony alert.