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Boris Johnson

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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 16:22:20

But what if your Eton friends don't all live in the same constituency where they can vote you in? They wouldn't be able to help you ion return then. What if they didn't much like you at school so vote against you, would you still want to them get rich quick? What if some of them are mavericks who prefer to vote for the left? Or even leak doctored photos of you apparently doing unspeakable things while a student? Life is full of problems for those who cheat, safer to make political decisions for more reputable motives.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 16:34:50

Just reading this thread. Been away and busy so I'm catching up with GN.

I got to this from durhamjen: "Johnson's the sort of character that should be assassinated." shock shock shock ‼️

I'll carry on reading now.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 16:49:02

Shall we all visit you in the Tower, durhamjen? We could bake a file into a cake and ice it nicely.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 16:53:43

I don't like BJ. I don't find his appearance attractive but I don't think that matters. I can't think of a single politician whose appearance I do 'like'. If a person is dressed in a semblance of decency that's all I ask.

Nor do I dislike him and I'd be horrified if he were assassinated just as I'd be horrified if any other British politician were assassinated.

I do like his apparently not caring about "causing offence" about stupid stuff like messy hair and a flapping jacket though. Stuff like that is very low in importance in the big scheme of things. It's the kind of eccentricity that we could do with a bit more of.

No idea, as yet, which way I'll vote. I voted in to the Common Market, but the Common Market isn't and wasn't the EU. I don't think trade will suffer if we leave because the EU sells more to us than we do to them and besides, there's a lot of the rest of the world to trade with, which we do already.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 18:08:37

Do you feel the same about Corbyn's appearance, bags?

By the way, we were talking about character assassination, not real assassination, just in case you had not realised.

I am still here. Haven't been picked up or picked off by the thought police.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 18:11:32

Elegran, you do not need to be voted in by your Eton colleagues. You get voted in by the ordinary voters.
Then your Eton colleagues put you in the cabinet alongside them, just to ensure their dominance in the government.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 18:17:17

The ordinary voters must have thought Cameron wasn't too bad a bet as an MP then, to get him into Parliament in the first place, as they must have thought that the other Conservative MPs weren't too bad a bet either, and the ordinary MPs - most of whom didn't go to Eton - must have thought he wasn't too bad a bet as leader of the party.

Elegran Sat 20-Feb-16 18:21:49

Grammatically, "Johnson's the sort of character that should be assassinated." means that he is the sort of character ie person, not that he has such a character ie nature. A subtle difference, but it changes the kind of assassination greatly! I'd better bake that cake to be on the safe side.

thatbags Sat 20-Feb-16 19:37:57

dj, yes.

rosesarered Sat 20-Feb-16 21:26:43

I had to do a double take when I read your post djen then realised you meant that his character should be assassinated, not him! grin
It's an eats shoots and leaves thing.

rosesarered Sat 20-Feb-16 21:28:04

Yes, Boris is combing his hair now, is this ominous?

Ana Sat 20-Feb-16 21:40:01

Yes, it should have been 'Johnson's is the sort of character...etc.' Thought that would have been obvious to a former teacher.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 20-Feb-16 22:39:19

grin Lol about dj suggesting assassination of Boris. shock

Anniebach Sat 20-Feb-16 22:42:25

Boris is such an attention seeker, am sure he is enjoying all the - when will Boris declare , causing as much attention as the birth of a Windsor

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 22:55:18

"Johnson has managed to wring every ounce of attention out of his position of ambiguity. Even now, his stance is being decided not on the substance of the deal but on the political reaction. Will Cameron win the referendum? And how much support will Johnson lose in the party by backing a remain in the EU vote? Johnson will calculate the best outcome for him personally.

If the British people vote to leave in June, Cameron will have little choice but to resign and Johnson could be in pole position to take over as leader.

Of course, Gove’s decision to support exit makes Johnson’s position more difficult in the event of that side winning. If Gove is the senior representative of the out group and Johnson sides with Cameron, the mayor’s chances at the leadership would be diminished. Johnson now faces a crucial question – should he follow the prime minister or Gove?"

From an article by a professor of politics at York University.

durhamjen Sat 20-Feb-16 22:57:24

Maybe I like a bit of ambiguity, Ana. It makes people think.

thatbags Sun 21-Feb-16 07:51:11

And clarity doesn't hmm.

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 09:33:35

Johnson will, with a heavy heart and after days of agonising decide to join the out group, and not forgetting after he has waited to see which way he thinks public opinion is going , and has had meetings with Gove

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:36:53

Crystal ball working well ab? I could have sworn I just heard that his column will be on the net around ten tonight.

obieone Sun 21-Feb-16 09:37:39

DH thinks he will join the Out campaign.
He says he would not to do all this ta-daing and look at me stuff to..join the Ins.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:40:55

I'm glad he does show strong loyalty to his PM. And that he is reluctant to go against him, whilst remaining strong to his own opinions that tell him he has to. Decent bloke.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:44:20

Yes, of course he will join the outs. But I doubt if he needs ab to make the announcement for him. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 21-Feb-16 09:44:59

And what do you think *obieone^?

Anniebach Sun 21-Feb-16 09:48:11

Pity he hadn't shown loyalty towards his wives , if he becomes PM we can be assured there will be no changes to the abortion laws

obieone Sun 21-Feb-16 09:49:54

Dont know. In?