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This Government has definitely lost the plot

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whitewave Sat 26-Mar-16 08:41:39

This has been mentioned on another thread, but I think it is important enough to warrant a thread of its own.

Farm animals are no longer to be protected by welfare codes. These are to scrapped by this government.

What sort of message is that giving to those farmers whose priority is not the animal welfare?

I despair! What is the matter with them. What else are they going to not care about?

I am not vegetarian, but worry about the meat I do eat and so always buy organic free range as I feel it is the best I can do if I eat the animal.

This can't be right.

durhamjen Sun 10-Apr-16 17:51:31

I've sent them an email.

whitewave Sun 10-Apr-16 17:51:08

wot shock oh no! Don't tell me

wot Sun 10-Apr-16 17:46:37

I agree entirely. I saw a photo of a dog trusted up ready to be slaughtered for meat and its haunted me ever since. Of course ill sign it if there's no awful pictures.

durhamjen Sun 10-Apr-16 17:45:59

I don't think I can find it without a picture. I'll remember that in future.

whitewave Sun 10-Apr-16 17:41:50

shock

whitewave Sun 10-Apr-16 17:41:22

Oh no I can't! it stays with me for days and days [ shock]. I'll willingly sign a petition though but if I have to see a dead or dying elephant I can't do it.

durhamjen Sun 10-Apr-16 17:28:24

secure.avaaz.org/en/yahoo_ivory_loc_/?slideshow

Not about the government but about elephants being killed. Half the elephants in Cameroon have been killed recently for the ivory trade. Yahoo is still allowing ivory to be traded on its site. There are over a million signatures already.
Click on the picture of the elephant on the slideshow to get to the petition.

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 17:39:26

32 u turns in the first 5 years - is that a record?

Anniebach Fri 08-Apr-16 14:05:14

wot, many have fought so hard to get some protection for animals , the thought of all that campaigning for so long just being scrapped made me so angry

daphnedill Fri 08-Apr-16 13:46:16

I agree with you, chelseababy. I can't say I'm thrilled about the raising of the female pension age to 65, but I did know about it 20 years ago. The second rise was announced with far too little notice - and this affects both men and women. I'm also pi$$ed off that the 'flat' rate is nothing of the sort. I'll lose my SERPs/SP2 and won't get the full rate because I was contracted out for a number of years. There's a huge gap between the 'headline' and the reality.

wot Fri 08-Apr-16 13:43:04

Ha ha! Durham, and Timothy Leary as well as Aldous Huxley.

wot Fri 08-Apr-16 13:40:35

Anniebach, I too can't abide cruelty or neglect to animals/birds.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 13:31:45

32 in the first two years, whitewave.

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 09:57:26

Be interested to list how many u turns have been made since 2010 there seems to have been loads

Anniebach Fri 08-Apr-16 09:52:39

Andy Murray to win Wimbledon and all this, what a happy little bunny am I. Who was it said on the budget thread it was a good budget , someone did , oh well , we all make mistakes

whitewave Fri 08-Apr-16 07:12:49

Stiĺl so pleased

chelseababy Fri 08-Apr-16 06:38:00

U turn on second increase in state pension age would be welcome.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 01:28:24

Just had an email from Viva! asking me to sign a petition to stop it.
That must be the first petition I haven't signed.

Eloethan Fri 08-Apr-16 00:43:57

If it's really true that they're scrapping the whole crazy idea, that's great news - thank goodness. Animal welfare certainly isn't perfect but it would be a good deal worse if the industry were left to regulate itself. Aside from the inevitability of a higher incidence of cruel and negligent treatment of animals, it would have put consumers at far more risk than they are already.

We have seen in other areas - banks, police operations, food industry, etc., etc., that self-regulation or light touch regulation just doesn't work. I truly think this government is becoming more deranged by the minute.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:24:27

weownit.org.uk/evidence/land-registry

They have been crowdfunding to get a report done on the selloff of the land registry. They have enough money now for a challenge, so hopefully it will be the next uturn.
They might even have done it by the time you read this!

Definitely academies, daphnedill.

durhamjen Fri 08-Apr-16 00:03:57

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/04/07/the-hollowing-out-of-democracy/

By Aldous Huxley.

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 22:34:34

Anything else? I am enjoying this

Gracesgran Thu 07-Apr-16 22:31:06

Has anyone mentioned that they have now decided to drop the tests for four year olds.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35989662

durhamjen Thu 07-Apr-16 22:29:04

Actually bedroom tax should be on the way out soon.
The size of a bedroom has been ruled on in law, and many people have discovered that they have one bedroom less than their landlord says they have.
So many people are going to reclaim their money that the system may well break.

whitewave Thu 07-Apr-16 22:25:46

I feel so happy - pathetic really. I think we ought to push for even greater animal welfare.