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Anya Mon 18-Apr-16 14:16:14

Is it just me or do other moderate left-wingers feel alarmed by the way the Labour party is being torn apart by a move to the far left and the way this is being glorified on GN?
I've never voted Tory in my life and I detested Blair before it became fashionable to dislike him. But I feel the heart is being torn out of the Labour party. This talk of returning to 'traditional values' is no such thing but a cover for a lurch to the extreme left.
There must, surely, be others like myself whose socialist principles are firmly held, but who are alarmed by the current situation.
I know the reaction this thread is going to get from some who think otherwise, but I believe that there is a cohort of quiet socialists on this forum who would agree with me.

whitewave Fri 22-Apr-16 09:45:26

This is where I think the argument for a free market abjectly fails. It simply doesn't take account of cartels and the power of wealth to get what it wants.

rosesarered Fri 22-Apr-16 09:51:33

Perhaps we would, if farmers were to stand outside supermarkets handing out leaflets, if the leaflet had a tick box, yes to pay more and no for keeping the price as it is, which was then dropped into a large postbox and given to the manager.
Actually, farmers take note, not a bad idea! Inertia on the part of the customer is keeping prices low, it must be made easy to show our feelings ( or nothing will happen.)

rosesarered Fri 22-Apr-16 09:53:23

Supermarkets are not allowed to act as cartels though.

whitewave Fri 22-Apr-16 09:59:27

No they're not! Tell that to the farmers though!

The trouble is that people will always go for low price. That is a rational decision when you are on a tight budget. Not everyone of course - I always go for organic f/r but I can afford to, that isn't true of most families in this country.

Lazigirl Fri 22-Apr-16 14:09:11

I am fairly new to GN and live in a safe parliamentary seat where my vote doesn't count so it's a real delight to follow these political threads where so many intelligent and stimulating views are aired. I do now realise tho that you have to be quite thick skinned to post. Re my comment at 12.23 yesterday I didn't intend to patronise, or meant discussion too simplistic but just to introduce a different angle to discussion smile

Anya Fri 22-Apr-16 15:44:55

Lazigirl nor was my remark intended as a rebuke, just as a sort of hmm moment! Pax.