EU - I'm in a quandary

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Many young Germans are real fans of the old series like Monty Python, Black Adder, Fawlty Towers, and the like- that many young Brits just don't know.

I think if older people think a Leave vote will benefit the younger generation they should consider that the employment situation for many young people is difficult at the moment. Many of them work hard to get degrees and then cannot get the first foot on the ladder of a career without doing internships, part time jobs, short-term "self -employed" contracts etc. It would make their lives even more difficult for them if we have another dip in the economy in the next year or two, or ten (which economists predict with confidence - defiantly a dip, don't know how deep or long). This will inevitably make their trouble worse. They will also lose out on the employment rights that they currently have e.g. equal pay for part-timers, fair treatment including holiday pay for temps and maternity benefits. Priti Patel is on record as saying she will cut back on these EU-backed protections for workers. The young, and women would suffer most as those established in professions, or working for ethical companies would probably retain the conditions they were employed on. Please, please think about this before voting. Most younger voters (and 16-17 year olds) want to Remain.

My 16 year old GS had a school vote. Remain won by a huge margin apparently.

Jalima re the Big 3 and Greece. I'm not sure how much the UK can be responsible for the pressure on Greece. I thought their problems stemmed from being admitted into the Eurozone and as we opted out, perhaps we have not been part of the discussion or decision making process, I don't know. There's a lot of mumblings about Greece not being ready for the Eurozone. Perhaps that says something about the robustness of the entry process.

On the trade percentages though, I think you're right. It's my understanding that the overall percentage of trade with the EU has gone down. Not great for the Remain campaign, although I don't know anything about the reasons for this.

Ever queued in a French ski resort? (if queuing is what you are talking about
no, I must admit I haven't
It was getting on a bus in the Canary Islands, a queue of British people waiting patiently and chatting, allowing a disabled person with two walking sticks to the front of the queue - who was then elbowed out of the way when the bus arrived, very rudely by a group of Germans who appeared from nowhere. It became quite fraught!

Today 8 year old DGD1 asked me if I would vote remain and was pleased when I said Yes. She has been canvassing everyone she knows to vote remain so that her very best friend (who has German Parents)will be able to stay. I had not realised that her friend was technically German as she talks exactly like my DGD having arrived in Scotland as a baby.

DGD1 also told me that another two girls in her class and their brothers are worried because their parents are Polish. These are all children from fully integrated 'hard-working' families. So, if anyone is still undecided, on their (and my DGD's) behalf I urge you to vote remain.

That was to jalima

granjura 'Dinner for One'
This sketch is apparently a smash hit on the Continent, particularly Germany, but most people in the UK have never heard of it.
DN had to send to Germany for an English copy for his parents.

www.openculture.com/2014/01/watch-dinner-for-one-the-short-film-that-has-become-a-strange-new-years-tradition-in-europe.html

JessM. Do you honestly think that the UK, the country that invented employment law, that has probably the most beneficial conditions within the EU will withdraw these, we live in a democratic society not a dictatorship.
The majority of our employment law was enshrined well before we even joined the Common Market and much has been adopted as the worldwide standard. If you view the employment policies of many countries you will note that they are often derived from UK employment law"
With regard to employment for our youth. It has been acknowledged even with the industrial sector that many companys currently recruit from the EU rather than employing and training our youth because the can get a quick cheap worker.
Before the EU we had excellent apprenticeship schemes, these all but dried up as we were drawn further into the EU, the majority of our industrial manufacturing base was outsourced to Eastern Europe, the remaining service industry jobs being mopped up by English speaking EU nationals, and you wonder why there are no jobs?

or in English
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lzQxjGL9S0

With regard to employment for our youth. It has been acknowledged even with the industrial sector that many companys currently recruit from the EU rather than employing and training our youth because the can get a quick cheap worker.
Was it on last night's news that a builder in NI was interviewed? He said it was better to employ EU workers for his building firm than bother to train UK apprentices.
Probably it is for him, but surely he does have a responsibility to train young British workers too.
If those EU workers decide to return home for whatever reason then he will be left with no-one to work in his business.

Many of the apprenticeship deceased to exist with the decline of British industry and no support from the Govt. nothing to do with the EU.

That builder should be taken to court under employment rules.

Welshwife I can assure you that the two large industrial manufacturing companies in my town ran apprenticeship schemes until they outsourced their manufacturing to Poland and Lithuania, resulting in redundancy of engineers and end of apprenticeships. I said at the time that we will come to rue this as we gave list our skills base.

Durhamjen There is no employment law to cover this, depending on how the job is advertised the company can employ who they want without discrimination. We could be held to be descriminating in favour of our own nationals.

Doesn't it depend on what he pays them?
Corbyn is trying to outlaw companies advertising only in foreign countries.

Joelsnan,

That's exactly what will happen! Instead of employing and training Polish and Lithuanian (and quite a few British) workers in the UK, companies will relocate to countries where labour is cheap, especially if they export to the EU. So no manufacturing and unemployed workers - and little chance of emigrating.

At the end of the day, it's all 'For profit. Make as much profit by sourcing the cheapest possible labour. With the vast pool if cheap European labour, why would the ruling gentry want us to leave, these are the ones that fund the 'glove puppet' politicians.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/06/22/vote-remain-for-peace-equality-truth-and-simplicity/

Oh dear! I hope you've never voted Conservative, Joelsnan, or is the first time that you realised that the UK is run by the rich and powerful?

Of course businesses will source their labour for the lowest possible cost - or replace them with robots and computers. That's capitalism. That's what unions fight against every day, so why don't people support them? Ironically, some of the same people who go on about unelected fat cats are the very same people who refer to movements such as UK Uncut as unwashed scum or the unemployed as scroungers.

Actually Daphnedill although from staunch labour roots I personally have tended to vote based on which manifesto most closely aligns with my ideals, so over the years I have voted for them all!
However, with time I have realised that most politicians are a product of the academia machine, I.e. Read politics at uni, go on to be researchers or private secretaries for MPs and eventually get themselves a seat, few now come through any other route so they are a homogenous bunch who toe the party line with little understanding of social impact our heed for paymaster control.

daphnedill. You think the UK is run by the rich and powerful.
Do you think the EU is run by the richer and more powerful?