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Labour MP Jo Cox shot in Birstall

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POGS Thu 16-Jun-16 14:12:42

I am sorry to be watching this ' unravelling' news report .

I hope she will be OK. Her poor family.

It is being reported that 2 people have been shot and 2 stabbings but no police confirmation as yet. The area is on lock down at the moment and there is a Primary School in the vicinity .

I hope the gunman is caught soon.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:39:06

t.emails.savethechildren.org.uk/r/?id=h208f103,145ef4fe,145efb1a

A list of events around the world next Wednesday, which would have been her 42nd birthday.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:47:55

www.facebook.com/events/504385666426848/

See if this works. It's on Save the Children, called More in Common.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:48:24

Yes, that worked.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 19:02:16

Anniebach - "POGS, are you including her husband as someone using his wife's death?"

You never cease to amaze me with the crassness of your posts. What kind of a mind comes up with that?

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 19:21:19

No more crass than quoting from that awful Spectator article imo sad.

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 20:41:19

No more crass than quoting from that awful Spectator article imo
Posting a link to an article is quite normal on here, many people do it; we may not agree with the content of the article but the poster is perfectly at liberty to link to it. We do not have to read it if we do not like the publication.

Twisting and deliberately misinterpreting someone's posts, saying things that a poster never said at all and then posing it as a question is putting words into someone's mouth that they never said and never intended.

This is what sensationalist newspapers use as headlines - they manage to spread rumours and innuendo about people but disguise it in ways which make it a question rather than a statement.
They may use headlines such as 'If I vote Brexit would I be aligning myself with fascists and thugs?' - therefore implying that anyone who does is that very thing by association.

All very clever but insidious.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 20:47:55

She did not just post a link. She posted two paragraphs which included this.

"Or they may try to say that a vote to stay in the EU is a vote against ‘hatred’ and for ‘hope’ or the politics of ‘unity’ over those of ‘division’. If they do then they should be aware that they are using the actions of a madman, extremist or terrorist (or all three) as a means to further their own political goals. They would be doing precisely what we try so hard, unanimously and generally successfully to stop Islamist gunmen from being able to do.

Such a move would bring about the triumph of the assassin’s veto in our society – something which could not only have appalling short-term consequences, but bloody long-term ones as well. I trust that those campaigning for ‘Remain’ recognise that a victory achieved on those terms would be the sourest and most divisive victory of all."

That's what some of us find appalling and is what you find appalling from the opposite perspective. POGS said she liked it. That's not twisting anything she said. How do you make out that it is?

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 20:54:18

I am just arguing that anyone can put on links if they wish, type out parts of those links (GN will moderate if they see fit) but that no-one should have words and statements attributed to them they they did not say or post.

That's what some of us find appalling and is what you find appalling from the opposite perspective.

I did not say that at all, which just proves the point I am trying to make. about putting words into people's mouths.

I neither said I agreed or disagreed with the post.

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 20:56:00

I wasn't commenting on whether POGS liked it or not, merely on anniebach's further assumption of what POGS does or does not think.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 20:58:11

Anyone can post a link, post their opinion, ask a question,

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 21:10:35

Neither was I. I was commenting on the fact that POGS said she liked it. I was also commenting on the fact that I found her quote from the article appalling, and found the article appalling.
The fact that you do not says a lot to me.

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 21:15:46

The fact that you do not says a lot to me.

I said I had no opinion on it - so I could well find it appalling - because I didn't follow the link. I wasn't commenting on that at all, merely on the extension of what another poster thought POGS would say next. An assumption.

The fact you said that says a lot to me too.

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 21:21:38

Perhaps it would be best not to make comments linked to links... unless you have read them, surely? To avoid misunderstanding? How can anyone guess that you haven't read a link, in a comment related to it?

Ceesnan Mon 20-Jun-16 21:24:59

Jingle did you enjoy the Scottish play?

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 21:30:35

I WASN'T MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT A LINK I WAS MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT WHAT ANOTHER POSTER SAID SHE THOUGHT SOMEONE WOULD SAY NEXT

AND THAT ANYONE IS ENTITLED TO PUT ON LINKS

sorry to shout but no-one is listening

Anyone can post a link, post their opinion, ask a question,
Thank you anniebach

whitewave Mon 20-Jun-16 21:33:39

jalima grin roll on Friday!!!

Jalima Mon 20-Jun-16 21:38:24

grin
well, hope it will be a grin
not a shock

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 21:43:08

I remember years ago being trapped on a small road by the Quorn Hunt- so decided to get out of the car and watch- from a little hill next to the road. This posh lady who looked a bit like the Queen, scarf and all, came and stood next to me. The men on horses and red coats were all over the place, the dogs going crazy and she said 'What a wonderful viewpoint' and I replied 'Just depends on your point of view' - she turned and stared! So the grins and shocks will just depend...

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 21:59:26

Thank you Jslima, I hope you will grant me the same courtesy

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 22:28:44

Hello Ceesnan. I enjoyed some of it. It definitely got better in the second half. I was a bit disappointed that the witches didn't do the "double double, toil and trouble" bit. It was done by the singers perched high above the stage. They sang all the music beautifully, but I would have liked the witches to have sung that. I have sent for a book of Shakespeare's plays as stories, so that when I see it again I will be able to follow the story better. Lady McBeth didn't speak up very well, which didn't help. The Globe is not the best for projecting sound. It all goes up and out. I would love to go again but it is booked solid!

Thank you for asking. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 22:29:16

As you were people. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 22:30:33

Where has the sadness gone from this thread? So soon.

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 23:12:31

Oh, believe me, the sadness hasn't gone....

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 23:17:37

It will last a long time in my opinion, such hatred is terrifying , not content with shooting and stabbing he kicked her she lay on the ground, I cannot erase this from my thoughts . Frightens me that hate can be so strong

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 23:55:45

sad