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Labour MP Jo Cox shot in Birstall

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POGS Thu 16-Jun-16 14:12:42

I am sorry to be watching this ' unravelling' news report .

I hope she will be OK. Her poor family.

It is being reported that 2 people have been shot and 2 stabbings but no police confirmation as yet. The area is on lock down at the moment and there is a Primary School in the vicinity .

I hope the gunman is caught soon.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 11:47:14

I may win the lottery this week - if I played it

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 11:57:30

No chance, then, Annie.

trisher Mon 20-Jun-16 11:57:34

But POGS the two people named who have used Jo's name are prominent 'Leave' campaigners. So the same question should be asked of the 'Leave" campaign. And at least the 'Remainers' would have the consolation that they had done what Jo Cox would have wanted . The Leave campaigners (and isn't Farage an 'official' Leave campaigner?) would just have a hollow victory based on lies and deceit.

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 11:59:04

Do we have to pretend that this murder didn't happen. And, if we can't how can we disassociate Jo from her political beliefs? Or the beliefsof her murderer. How can people accuse those who knew her of 'using' her death in some way? I find it appalling that people can think this sad.

whitewave Mon 20-Jun-16 12:05:46

Thursday will put a stop it this tegan and not before time

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 12:15:22

Jo Cox was an active member of the remain campaign , the day before her death she was on the Thames in the Remain flotilla with her husband and their children .

Her murderer saw her as a traitor

Her husband asked her fight be continued

Is all this to be ignored or denied

Rather like saying America should have stopped the civil rights movement because Dr King had been murdered ,

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 12:17:07

Tegan, the article in the Spector is using the death of Jo Cox but in a negative way

Welshwife Mon 20-Jun-16 12:22:55

I cannot understand why the Leave camp have said that they had no idea about Baroness Wasi being in their camp - I read the lists put out at the beginning of the campaigning and was very surprised to see her name on the Leave list. Maybe this is just another little slip rather than admit people are finding their campaign tactic distasteful and leaving because of them - she mentioned Michael Gove not Farage.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 12:28:03

I saw the flowers for her on Westminster Green yesterday. So sad. A Syrian woman was chalking a message of gratitude to her on the pavement. Her work as appreciated.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 20-Jun-16 12:28:23

was

POGS Mon 20-Jun-16 12:42:39

The article is not about Jo Cox per se it is about the lack of decency when people use her death to propagate their own views, as the article says "could not pass the opportunity to press what they saw as a political advantage". The article does not turn it's face against the far right tendencies of the gunman , it is pointing out the ease with which some jumped on a band wagon prior to knowing the facts.

Being 'disgusted' is not the domain of those who are for either Remain or Leave . I refer to comments such as "Leave are using her death". Another post " I would have even been disturbed by an attack on a far right Tory (I would make exceptions)."

I am not defending either Campaign, I have no interest in doing so. I am making a point and agreeing with the sentiment in the article that asks ' Is it too much to ask for some decency?". If you find my posts unpalatable then so be it but I posted to hopefully make at least someone think .

POGS Mon 20-Jun-16 12:47:39

Trisher what 2 people from the Leave Campaign?

Anniebach. The article is not using the death of Jo Cox in a negative way. It is using her death to ask questions of politicising a death, asks questions of those who use her death to promote their own views.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 12:50:26

The article is not quoting facts, they are claiming what may happen, this is an opinion not a fact

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 12:56:18

The article, which you said you liked, said that if we voted to remain we would be using her death to propagate our own views. We would not. He implies that if remain wins it is because of her death. That's what I find appalling. It's not a question of semantics, either. That is how I read the bit that you quoted, which you obviously like, as you said so.
That is my gut reaction to that article. He even used the word assassin in it, which is what I believe the murderer to have been.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 13:00:34

POGS, are you including her husband as someone using his wife's death ?

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 13:10:54

But the previous article in the Spectator seemed [imo] to take a different stance.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 13:16:26

That well known Brexiter, Douglas Murray, is not using her death to further the cause of Brexit, is he not?
Pull the other one.

POGS Mon 20-Jun-16 13:23:21

Anniebach

Your question is odious but I will respond by saying her husband, her family have responded with integrity, love and have most certainly not politicised their sad loss.

The fact you bring so close a person into the equation is not one I would have elected to do to be honest.

On another thread you are raising individual names but I consider the passage I posted to be a generalisation .

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 13:37:58

Yet the article was all about her death may be used , so nothing wrong in me asking your views of her husbands statement, nothing odious about my question, what was odious was the article in the Spectator

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 13:41:31

Sorry, forgot to say - the names I used have been brought to this forum by other posters accusing them of using the death , don't recall you saying anything about not making it personal POGS, granted it may have been one of your posts I chose not to read

Mamie Mon 20-Jun-16 17:08:08

I have spent the last couple of hours in tears listening to the wonderful tributes to Jo Cox.
The House of Commons and the House of Lords at their best.
What a wonderful, brilliant, compassionate and passionate human being.

whitewave Mon 20-Jun-16 18:02:26

Oh I have just seen the seat with the roses.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jun-16 18:13:36

Seeing the two roses was so upsetting whitewave

whitewave Mon 20-Jun-16 18:20:43

We can keep on fighting hate in her name. That's all I can do.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:35:50

Jo Cox fund has reached nearly a million pounds now.
A third goes to Hopenothate.