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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

obieone Fri 24-Jun-16 13:03:58

I have to say that actually, I think the posters on gransnet are reacting better this time around than they did after the last General Election. Thank you.

Jane10 Fri 24-Jun-16 13:03:33

Pretty mild I'd say compared to the words flying around our house!

obieone Fri 24-Jun-16 13:02:17

daphnedill - life will be improved because of what will now not happen.
No EU army, a likelihood of controlling immigration numbers, and none of the whatever horrors the EU had lined up for us.

I realise for you, that may indeed all be a minus, so yes, for you and others, you may not think your life is going to improve.

pashkaro Fri 24-Jun-16 13:02:08

People on both sides if the camp seem to have forgotten we are already part of the "CommonWealth". As such no one government in the Commonwealth exercises power over the others as is the case in a political union. Rather, the relationship is one of an international organisation through which countries with diverse social, political, and economic backgrounds are regarded as equal in status and cooperate within a framework of common values and goals as outlined in the Singapore Declaration. Such common values and goals include the promotion of democracy, human rights, good governance, the rule of law, individual liberty, egalitarianism, free trade, multilateralism, and world peace which are carried out through multilateral projects and meetings which include the Commonwealth Games held once every four years.

wot Fri 24-Jun-16 12:59:27

Was she referring to my use of the word"a#se" I wonder?????

Hattiehelga Fri 24-Jun-16 12:58:59

We need to stay cool and let the Remain fraternity express their bitterness which I hope will not prevent them, in time, realising that democracy has worked. Hopefully they will be big enough to accept the decision of the majority and pull together to make sure that Great Britain prospers. David Cameron compounds my disappointment in him by resigning. Another broken promise because he said he would stay whatever the outcome. He should stay and work towards enabling the wish of the people.

nigglynellie Fri 24-Jun-16 12:50:07

If the result had gone the other way would there be a petition for a re run? I don't think so!!!

Ginny42 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:43:26

@ Homefarm,
But it's not the future almost 50% of the population wanted and now 100% of the population will have to live with the consequences.

The whole sorry spectacle has split families, communities and political parties. How bizarre was it to watch representatives of the same party on opposites sides of the debate, e.g. Boris and that engaging young Scottish Tory, Ruth Davidson! I'm not a Tory and never will be, but there was no comparison.

I'm particularly sad as my grandson has become a 'foreigner' overnight and my job and that of my daughter has/will disappear with the changes to Erasmus grants system.

I fear it was Boris' wish to reside in No 10 aided by Gove the kingmaker, which caused this seismic shift and now we will all have to live with the consequences.

Candelle Fri 24-Jun-16 12:43:14

Thanks daphnedill and Elegran.

{{http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215}}

It may now work....

The site is up and running again and is now over the 100,000 mark.

If you voted 'remain', this petition may still be worth a shot as the vote was less than 60% in either camp and the turnout was less than 75%.

harrigran Fri 24-Jun-16 12:40:37

I am saddened by the level of animosity and venom vented on forums and FB today and I include my own family sad

Nonnie1 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:40:03

Agree x

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 12:38:18

Translated - We just have to bite the bullet and make it all work. No use crying over spilt milk, (and various other annoying cliches)

Nonnie1 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:36:18

Swearing? Where?

petra Fri 24-Jun-16 12:35:34

I hope that Gillian Duffy is still with us. That's the woman that Gorden brown sneered at.
I hope that white van man is still with us. He's the man that Emilly Thornberry sneered at.
They are having their day.
I hope it's shown the uneducated morons that they do have power and they will be listened to.

Nonnie1 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:34:47

daphnedill there were clear and concise arguments from both sides. There was also a lot of utter rubbish said by both sides. We made a decision based on what we heard and what was in our hearts and how we felt.

Nobody was right or wrong. I'm not worried, and I won't be worried until something happens to make me question my decision and I fear that would have happened either way.

We have to put our trust in self serving politicians and they almost always never deliver smile

MTDancer Fri 24-Jun-16 12:32:14

Do we have to have swearing? I find it very offensive

BRedhead59 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:29:09

Not what I voted for but the most important thing now is to stay friends.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 12:26:20

Look at what is already happening, homefarm. Some of us DO actually care about the future of our country.

I am so angry that just over half the country has voted for what is effectively a jump off a cliff with no actual plan for the future. And all for absolutely nothing, apart from costing a hell of a lot of money, losing jobs and ruining young people's future plans.

Nobody, absolutely nobody, has said how life will be improved by this stupid decision.

Nonnie1 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:23:24

Agree with homefarm. Best foot forward and all that jazz smile

Mollydolly Fri 24-Jun-16 12:22:28

Very well put

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 24-Jun-16 12:21:52

The petition was started last November.

daphnedill Fri 24-Jun-16 12:11:22

@Candelle

It's here

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

but petitions are down for maintenance :-(

Unfortunately, I think it's too late. The petition states 'We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.'

It should have been like that in the first place!

homefarm Fri 24-Jun-16 12:09:57

What a lad of doom and gloom. The future will be what we make of it. Fear mongering will not help. Think positive and smile

jeberdes83 Fri 24-Jun-16 12:09:14

Smaller things are being overlooked I think. The EU at present can overrule our judges and laws. There are many directives which affect small business, the fishing industry and so on. These are being ignored in the discussions regarding immigrants, and finance. I call them "smaller" issues , but surely they are important too.

Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 12:07:01

It will melt into the bottomless abyss, DD