Ok, we are out, what now?

Elegran, We can't strike any new deals with EU countries until we've extricated ourselves from the existing deals.

So how are any new deals going to be BETTER than the existing deals? That's what people have voted for.

They have a massive amount to do - I hope they are capable. Oh God!!!

One who can recognise genuine experts to pick their brains, work out a good route forward, and get over to the grass-roots that what the best brains advise is the way to go. The getting things over to the public is a big part of the task. We no longer automatically trust our leaders to get on with the job for us.

J52 What mortgages? Where is the housing to get a mortgage on?

PRINTMISS well said.

Yes, the best brains from both sides of the debate and let's have input from industry too.

Let them sort it out! Let's see them putting money into the NHS and doing all the things they promised. It won't take people long to see they've been duped.

Can I get an Irish passport if I have an Irish grandparent?

That's what the people voted for, elegran, Boris and Gove.

First move, then - find a good new PM.

It's alright saying on here we need the best brains for the job. However, the Brexiters said they distrusted the experts.

New pm - October

This is what coalitions are for - people with differing political views working together for the common good, without point-scoring. Include all sides, and come to a consensus.

Anniebach But are that pair likely or able to fix it or will they do something worse? They could just keep digging and get us into a deeper hole which is impossible to climb out of?

Sorry Anya - that was a typo, I was actually thinking Anya as I typed.

So Cameron is standing down, this year , Boris must be so elated

By all means try to be optimistic, but in being so it would be foolish to ignore what will clearly be major problems over the next months/years

Three months.

Well, I think the first thing we do is take a deep breath, and say "Okay, that is the way the vote has gone, and it is what the majority of the people in this country have decided. It was a VOTE" then, we have to try to get some sort of 'togetherness' organised so that we are all on the same side of getting this country back on track. The majority wanted independence, with independence comes responsibility, so we shall in future no longer be able to blame the EU for anything we dislike, although those who wanted to stay in will (because it is human nature) now blame those who voted out for whatever goes wrong, if anything. I agree with annsixty; we need the best brains for the job to give us the best opportunities available for our children and grand-children's sake. It is the future which is at stake here.

Yes, Luckygirl Working together for the good of the country instead of fighting one another for party advantage would get us somewhere. Accepting good ideas from the opposition and the opposition not complaining, "You pinched that from us! Unfair!" if they do, would be a start.

Elegran I am Anya not Ana!

Who to carry it out? Well Cameron has to lead, but I think it would look as if we're all pulling together if some from the Leave camp (not Farage) were involved too.

Cameron stand down, Boris move into no 10, Gove Into no 11, let them sort out the mess they created,

We should dispense with recriminations, pull together, maybe have an informal coalition and accept that we live in a democracy so lots of us are disappointed with votes a lot of the time. And be kind!

What we need to do now is wait and see. I'm looking forward to the ride, not for the bumps, but because I feel the excitement of a new path. It's an uncertain path to be sure but it's an adventure too.

There was talk only days ago of dissatisfaction with the EU megalith in other countries. It'll be interesting to observe what hapoens over the water in the coming months and years.

Well that was not a very positive suggestion for the future Skullduggery! - I don't think this is what Elegran started this thread for!

My answer is that we have to take measured steps to negotiate the withdrawal from the EU and that the EU bods need to have the political nouse to realise that our exit will have galvanised the concerns that people in the other member states have about the way the EU operates. Unfortunately they did not demonstrate that political nouse when Cameron went cap in hand to them to get some concessions immediately before the referendum and came back with virtually nothing. It was badly timed and I was very surprised that they could not see the effect this might have on public opinion in the run-up to the referendum.

We need to find ways of being good neighours but not family. It is also important that those who voted leave for non-atavistic reasons are heard in order not to fuel racist views.

Cameron has been politically illiterate in his handling of this whole issue and in holding a referendum in the first place.

I think there will be a bumpy ride to come in the medium term, and hope that the government was not so complacent that the bookies had it right, that they have not put contingency plans in place.

What I do not want to see is a lot of party political maneuvering in the wake of the vote. Better that they should just get on with their jobs rather than backbiting and point-scoring.

Sorry Elgran I'm not clever enough to know what will happen, or even predict I don't think they'll be sending anyone home though. I thought those who were here legally could stay? Imports may get more expensive but perhaps the goods we sell will be cheaper to export. Will that mean it will be more expensive to buy foreign goods here,?food stuff for example? and there'll be more jobs because our goods will be cheaper abroad. Other than that I don't know.

Whitewave I meant both. Public and private measures.

Very constructive, skullduggery - not. Shall we just all jump off Beachy Head? We have to act to make sure we survive "on our own" not declare that we are fucked and die in despair.

Lets have some can-do, please.

Well The first thing I realise after listening to Philip Hammond is that I am not likely to see the final benefit or downside. I will be 79 in 2 weeks and the break or divorce as Elegran so aptly puts it will be a long time coming. He actually said we will still be members in2 years time, with decreasing influence. Those who thought today would bring instant change are in for a surprise except of course the financial impact on the pound.
I hope common sense prevails and the best brains available, no matter what their politics and personal views are, will work together for the transition to get the best for everyone, and no recriminations. The die is cast, we must go with it.