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kittylester Fri 24-Jun-16 07:50:56

All over fb there are people calling anyone who voted Leave 'thick', 'uneducated' etc.

Do we not live in a democracy? Shouldn't we accept that more than 50% of the population want to leave the EU. I don't suppose that the same people would have been called names had they voted the other way.

Nonnie1 Sat 25-Jun-16 11:40:03

NotTooOld

I think the squabbling between MPs made it hard for people to make a balanced decison so they based their choice on one or two things they heard on the tV/read in the papers and it never occurred to them that politicians tell lies to suit their own personal agenda.

Joelsnan Sat 25-Jun-16 11:56:58

I find the hysteria about the suffering that the older generation have inflicted on the youth quite flabbergasting. The older generation in most part are the ones who truly cherish the generations following, how many grandparents hate their grandchildren and go out of their way to hurt or make them suffer. I really want to know exactly what future they perceive has been given away.
This unproven media scaremongering must stop or at least be ignored, it it like a feeding frenzy in a piranha tank. How can anyone truly say how it will be. Yes there may be a bit of a bumpy ride for a while, but would it be any better if we stayed in would we just be putting off the inevitable misery until later when eventually the union implodes as history shows is an an almost odds on bet.

kittylester Sat 25-Jun-16 11:58:12

I only know two people who voted Leave. One is the 34 year old girl who does my pedicure and the other a 70 year old man with his own business.

It's the name calling, backbiting, blame apportioning that I can't stand. We are where we are - see it as an exciting few months, hang on for dear life and enjoy.

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 12:03:06

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215/signatures/new

Welshwife, 1.1 million now, a million more signatures than needed. When does parliament go back?

Those of you who voted to leave, that's 38% of those eligible, you do know that if Boris becomes PM, that we will be stuck with Farage in the House of Lords for ever, don't you?

I've just been down to the village to get a paper, and couldn't help wondering which of the people I passed and spoke to actually do not want my grandson and his mum and sister to live here.

Ana Sat 25-Jun-16 12:05:35

Oh, it's always got to be about you, hasn't it dj? I doubt anyone voted to leave just because they didn't want your relatives to live here...hmm

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 12:10:12

I have signed but there is no email coming through? I wonder if there is something wrong with it

Joelsnan Sat 25-Jun-16 12:12:12

Trisher
I don't know what generation you are from, but I know that I strove to give my children a far better life than I ever had. To this day I live on a weekly amount that many youth spend on a night out. We were brought up in a saving culture which resulted in money for deposits, holidays abroad were only for the rich, most girls had a 'bottom drawer' saving for marriage. My first marital home was a two up one down, no bath, cold water only and toilet at the bottom of the garden. Furniture all second hand. Would kids today tolerate this?
I worked hard, paid for my own tertiary education and having worked from the age of 16 (whereas most children do not start work until around 23) to retirement I worked my way into a good employment position and paid for my own home which incidentally I only bough 4 years ago. It was not a show house, needed work, but at least it had hot water and an internal toilet thus time smile

Joelsnan Sat 25-Jun-16 12:18:40

By the way, I started without a penny, when I die, all the assets I have worked for will go effort free to my family and I am pleased that I can do that,

Badenkate Sat 25-Jun-16 12:19:46

I think the site has already crashed once today Whitewave because of the number of people wanting to sign. Just keep trying smile

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 12:23:29

OK thanks

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 12:28:05

I have signed it. Where can I find the bit about rules that have to be met please?

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 12:35:00

And me

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 12:44:03

Typically nasty, Ana.
I would think there are a lot of EU migrants in this country who feel unwanted at the moment, and yes, some of them are in my family.
I was just showing that it is about people we know, not just numbers. What's wrong with that?
Every EU nurse or doctor working for the NHS has family here.
Every EU builder or farm labourer could also have family either living here or whom they wanted to bring here. But not now.
Yes, I talk about my family to show the human side of it.
My other son could be made redundant at Christmas. He's taught in the same school for over 20 years. His wife is Spanish. If he is made redundant, they will move to Spain next year as they feel wanted there. She does not feel wanted here.
All choices have consequences, even for you, Ana. I do hope you do not complain about the triple lock going on pensions.

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 12:45:03

Another hundred thousand already.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 12:48:24

There was also a hint that the 75k safety valve on bank accounts might go as well. Is that because they are worried about the banks?

Ana Sat 25-Jun-16 12:56:13

Fine talking about your family, but not implying that people you pass in the street who voted Leave had a personal grudge against them!

varian Sat 25-Jun-16 13:16:52

My nine year old grand daughter is in tears because her best friend's family are planning to go back to Poland as they think they are no longer welcome in this country. We've told her that no-one in our family voted for this but I suppose it is exactly the result many Brexiters want.

Elegran Sat 25-Jun-16 13:21:26

whitewave when I signed the petition I had to wait quite a while before the email came through. I think the site is working at its limit. I hear that it crashed this morning, there was so much traffic.

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 13:24:47

Exactly, varian.
My son and his partner were putting stuff in cases to put in the car to take to the tip yesterday. My grandson was most upset thinking they were leaving already.

When people in this country go on holiday and overhear others saying they do no like the Brits, they get upset, thinking it is personal.

If you are an EU migrant and people say they do not want migrants here, you rightly get upset.

So none of your family or friends are migrants, is that right, Ana? So it doesn't matter to you that lots of people in this country right now feel unwanted? Is that right?

60% of those in Durham voted to leave. I think it was a high turnout. That means nearly every other person you see of voting age could not want migrants here. So yes, to a migrant in Durham, it does feel personal.

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 13:26:38

I actually ended up getting two emails from them. They wouldn't let me sign it twice, though.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 13:28:00

Gone through now.

willsmadnan Sat 25-Jun-16 13:34:34

How vicious can you get? I hope you're ashamed of yourselves whitewave and jinglebellsfrocks, although in the latter case it will fall on deaf ears. The thread is headed 'Show respect'.... which bit of that didnt you get? A case of mouth engaged before brain, yet againsad

durhamjen Sat 25-Jun-16 13:40:53

What are you on about, willsmadnan?

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 13:47:37

Yes and I would like to know

trisher Sat 25-Jun-16 14:29:30

Joelsnan so you didn't get free milk, a school health service, child benefit, subsidised school meals? There weren't grants to provide essential services in sub-standard housing, maintenance grants for students,or any support at all? Just because you didn't use it doesn't mean the welfare state didn't exist. I'm pleased you can hand assets on to your children, but some will just see it swallowed up by the debt they have run up training to be teachers, doctors or nurses.