Corbyn and No Confidence

Pheww Thank goodness for that daphnedill because above everything we are an extremely friendly town

I'm talking about Jeremy's shadow cabinet, labour supporters and the likes AB ....I presume you're familiar with the phrases.

I think David Milliband would have been a perfect leader and probably might have been had it not been for the unions backing his brother. The LP need a leader who is on the side of all of the U.K. Not just the trade unionists and public sector workers.

Presume as you wish Anya.

As a Labour Party member who voted for Corbyn I am neither a fair weather friend or a rat , I am that rare breed who has no problem in saying - I was wrong/I made a mistake / I have changed my views .

gillybob, I agree the party needs a leader who reaches out to other than party members only . I didn't vote for either of the Millibands so cannot agree on David

David Miliband is doing a very good job in international rescue. He's needed there, not in a pared down UK.

He is doing a good job Jen

Sorry AB I hadn't realised that you weren't familiar with these saying/phrases. Please accept my apologies.

Why are you always taking things amiss? If I had said to you several months ago you are making a mistake, Corbyn is a nice man with high principles, but not leader material, I would have had my head bitten off.

Oh! wait a minute, I think I did say that on GN and did have my head bitten off.

Let me get one thing absolutely straight as I'm getting a bit fed up. I am a Labour supporter. Just because I didn't agree he was the best leader for the party, when he was elected, I was subjected to quite a bit of 'oh, you're not really a Labour supporter' type of posts on this forum.

Well I'm glad you accept you made a mistake. I suppose its too much to expect that anyone would turn around and give me an apology or even admit I was right in this instance.

So get off your bloody high horse in future

You dismount first Anya, you hsve been on there longer than I hsve

I didn't make a mistake , I have changed my mind . I agree with his policies still .

The change of mind didn't happen in one day, I think he was wrong not to take part in tv debates with others, then give a solo performance to a room of young people. I think he is allowing John MacDonald to take control and I did not vote for MacDonald. I was disgusted thst he remained silent whilst that young Jewish MP was verbally attacked.
And I am so against his constant appearances at Momentum rallies , can we expect this group to form a guard of honour for him outside Westminster. I don't like exclusion and he is excluding the general public. I respect politicians who will brave a hustings , doesn't matter which party. Corbyn is more protected than the windsors

I do not like this momentum group, I have been told by young people in Cardiff that it is now considered fun to join momentum and cause mayhem

I have no problem in apologising if I have offended you in any discussions but you are aggressive and aggression comes back and bites

many Gnetters [including myself] had all sorts of flak shot at them for daring to suggest that Corbyn would not make a good leader [he was almost a saint at that point] and also for saying that some in the Labour party had, it seemed a problem with anti-Semitism.Hmmmn, well, at least some have had a change of heart then.The sooner he goes, the better.I bet that McDonnellis and always has been, the power behind the throne.

Yes. McDonnell (not MacDonlad) is pulling the strings. He's like an even more sinister Alistair Campbell.

MacDonald!

old McDonnell had a farm, ey I ey I oh,
and on that farm he had some activists, ey I ey I oh,
with a spin-spin here and a Momentum there,
here a heckler, there a heckler.... etc etc.

But, roses, you're not a Labour voter anyway (correct me if I'm wrong), so your opinion accounts as much as mine on the Conservative leadership does. The difference is, perhaps, that the next Conservative leader will definitely PM, so I guess I'm entitled to voice my fears about how dreadful (or less than dreadful) it could be.

I'm not a natural Labour voter either, but I really don't want a Conservative government for longer than necessary, so I want to see an effective opposition. I'm actually a paid up Labour member, although I didn't use my vote in the end, because I felt I would have been a fraud to vote.

The latest report states that Labour doesn't have an endemic problem with antisemiticism, which I think was obvious from the start. I would like to know how much Corbyn knew at the time about the antisemiticism suffered by one of his own MPs. I'm not a Corbyn fan and never have been. I can see that he represented many things people resented about MPs and the establishment, but I've never seen him as an inspiring leader or somebody who could touch base with existing Labour voters, particularly in the North and regions.

I don't, in any case, take any notice of Daily Mail or Daily Express opinions and smears.

I think John McDonnell is the brains behind the Corbyn ticket. I believe he once considered standing as leader, but had a heart attack (?) and stood down. In a way, I think that's a shame, because McDonnell seems to have a sound grasp of economics.

I think they're both honest and honorable people, but politics requires more than that. They're up against some dirty opponents and need to drop the moral high ground to win. They won't change anything unless they're in government and people like me will continue to 'waste' our votes on the Greens or LibDems.

Rosesarered shows great interest in the Labour Party, perhaps a closet labour supporter, or perhaps just enjoys brandishing her wooden spoon, I go for the latter

Hhhmmmppphhh! No comment! I just want to stop what this appalling government is doing to the fabric of society. The majority of people don't want it, but politicians who should be representing us spend too much time fighting amongst themselves.

No amount of complaining on social media is going to achieve anything, although it gives support. Well done to the people demonstrating in London today against BREXIT! It was arranged at very short notice via social media.

Just listened to the paper review. I wish for his own sake Corbyn will go quickly , it's so out of control now, he cannot keep this fight going , it isn't worth being ill for and the amount of stress he is under is too much.

He won't be going anywhere in a hurry.

I hope he stays.

Not very patriotic there POGS, if you love your country, surely we all want the best politicians we can find to represent us. A strong leader of the opposition is needed whichever if our two main parties are in power. The disintegration of the Labour Party would not help democracy imo.

Why do you want him to stay POGS?

Iam, many Tories are taking delight in this , takes attention away from them back stabbing each other and betrayal of friends

Len Mclusky on Andrew Marr talking about a PR company which has been campaigning among Labour MPs against Corbyn. I tried Googling it and couldn't get any link to work, it's called Portland, any GNs know more?

Portland Communications trisher. If your on Twitter read Bonnie Greers views on this latest accusations of Blair dark forces

Not on Twitter but found this article- it is disturbing. www.thecanary.co/2016/06/30/pr-company-manufactured-labour-coup-part-i/

POGS wants Corbyn to stay because she thinks it makes Labour unelectable.