Can a referendum be valid if won on lies?

If he thought Boris would be the new Captain, Boris looks as though he's just been handed a big bag of dog poo.

We're heading up sh1t creek without a paddle.

How's the petition doing. They can run for 6 months at that rate we are going to run out of petitioners!

My impression is that those who led the Leave campaign did not believe that they would win, have no idea what to do next since Dave , very cleverly (and posibly the only clever thing he has done in the last 6 months), has said he's not negotiating, and are back-pedalling like mad. Where are Johnson, Gove, Patel, Duncan-Smith etc? You would have thought they'd be out enjoying the sunshine of success. Talk about a rudderless ship

It's like the Queen disappearing at Diana's death. She eventually turned up and gave a reconciliation speech.

Not sure what the Brexit lot can say though. Yes I do

"Sorry"!! Would be a good start

The other thing the Brexit camp leaders could do is to ask Parliament to ignore the poor referendum majority they got from 72% of the population and ask Brussels to just please let us play with them all again as we were just having a little paddy!!

The petition is now just short of 3,000,000 and guess what it was started a bit ago by a leave campaigner as a insurance because he thought they were going to lose

Here's another lie

Farage has confidently stated that Britains economic downturn and possible recession has nothing to do with Brexit.

Now I can confidently say that anyone with more than two brain cells is not going to believe him.

The Brexit leaders wrote to Cameron earlier this week telling him they wanted him to remain as PM, expect Gove thought he could depend on their close friendship and Johnson as usual just didn't think .

Well he did think Cameron would sort everything out over the next three years , the EU would give us as much time as we wanted to leave, how wrong can he be

The leave voters have created prison ship Britain, they have prevented our young people from choosing to live and work in the EU, older people choosing to retire to countries in the EU. Australia and NZ just accept who they need. The world for us has now become a smaller place. What will they say when a teenager, in the future, says what did you vote.

Cameron possibly resigned in order not to trigger article 50, there was nothing in the referendum that says this has to be done, he just promised to do that the next day.

Shahid Javid - backtracking on what he said. "Oh" he says "that is over, we can't be held for what we said in the referendum"

So we can lie all we like and when the decision is made on those lies we shouldn't hold the politicians to account?

Then they wonder and moan about the lack of trust and respect.

Whitewave You beat me to it. Very surprised at how hard Andrew Marr went for him.
I almost felt sorry for Javid.

I didn't feel sorry for him as I don't now feel sorry for IDS. Marr has just shown him the poster which said £350m for the NHS. Yet another one backtracking. Another lie.

How can a single person respect any of them?

Here is a very interesting read:

Jolyon Maugham HOW TO DELIVER A SECOND REFERENDUM

Can a referendum be valid if won on lies If remain had won, the same statement could be applied as lies were equal on both sides. Give in gracefully whitewave Sour grapes do not become you.

Yes they do I will never give in to lies and deception on an industrial scale. You are wasting your breath if you think that I would roll over and give in. What has happened is absolutely disgraceful and a travesty of justice.

I have signed the online petition for another referendum for various reasons.

Without in anyway inferring the 'Leave' lot are gullible (because we are all being told not to get cross with them) but I am still wracking my brains over the idea that people actually listened and believed the stuff Farage spouted. He's been the butt of so many jokes for so long ...I just thought he was an amusing character straight out of something like 'Drop the Dead Donkey or even Spitting image.

And there was me, enjoying Gnomes and stuff. If you want to take 'legal action/petitions' re 'lies during elections/referendums' good luck. Get a time machine, some good lawyers, and travel back loads of years. You'll have a lot to do. They lie. They just lie cleverly. Personally, I feel sad that the country (forgetting, but not for one moment disregarding the Irish/Scottish who have some problems coming up) has been split so closely. No matter what you voted, it's not good for anyone with such a close vote. I am guessing we're all having some 'trying not to argue but cross confrontations' with family/friends/colleagues. The arguments re 'should we have had a referendum in the first place. Should we have another vote (what happens then? another if it's still a close margin? if Brexit comes out worse?). I'm not suggesting for one moment to lie down and play dead if you believe in what you believe (the last time I looked out of the window, it was a free country). But, a democratic process has just taken place. Badly organised? Badly campaigned? Should it have happened at all? It did. This site is full of the most amazingly diverse people. Which is how it should be or we'd be like a bunch of Stepford Wives. Positive moves forward?

It is the closeness of the vote and the seriousness of the situation that caused me to sign the online petition. We are not used to referendums at all.

breeze, well put....you have a decent sane head on your shoulders.....give me a few more days and hopefully I'll feel a bit more like you.

Can we try the Irish Neverendum...and have another go??

So, we have a referendum, we don't like the result, so, we we change the rules have another, maybe another, until we get the result the losers want!!!! Sounds just like Putin's Russia to me! When is democracy not democracy?, when the the losers don't like it!!! Sounds like dictatorship to me. Perhaps the uneducated and the over 65's shouldn't be allowed to vote? That should certainly get the right results every time, and sounds like cast iron democracy!!! One man one vote is what I understand that word to means, clearly people on here don't!! No democrats here, just bullies like the organisation the majority are desperate to get away from. Would this petition be up and running if the vote had gone the other way? No, suddenly the small majority would have been just fine, the will of the people, democracy at work. etc, etc! You people who. can't accept this verdict in our so called democratic country just amaze me. Will this soon apply to general elections? Wrong verdict, so run it again till you get the right one that our intellectual masters are satisfied - unbelievable.

I wonder if people would have voted had they known there was no plan behind it? unbelievable admission they had no idea!