As the hysterical left weep into their lattes...

Jalima yes, bear meat is eaten in Canada, Alaska too where they have subsistence hunting. The friends I mentioned are not blatantly racist, they are not that niave, but I know what they think about immigration. We've had discussions in the past and they know my views, so we just don't discuss it. If I want to bring up any subject, I will do just that, partly to pass on the facts about something badly/incorrectly reported by the media. I have done my bit then. But unless they come right out and say something completely unacceptable (in which case I would walk away), I accept that they hold different views on some things than me.

PS Forgot to say Trump scares me to death and I don't want to even think about him getting elected. How quickly the world can change.

He will be president because he says the things the people want to hear. All a load of crap, but hey ho, that's human nature and he understands it.

At least Trump will not get the black or Latino votes, which may swing it for Clinton.At least I hope so. Those Republicans who don't want Trump may abstain from voting.?

He shouldn't get the female vote either - if the females in the US have an ounce of self respect.

Or the black vote.

His vote will come primarily from the white working class. They are feeling just like our Brexit voters, put upon and ignored, so they are revolting and rejecting the elite and political classes.

Will Trump win? Not sure. America has gone liberal of late.
The email scandal of HIllary Clinton would not have been allowed in Britain. No one would even have dared do it.

They are feeling just like our Brexit voters, put upon and ignored, so they are revolting and rejecting the elite and political classes.
I do wish people would stop classing all Brexit voters in one camp.

As I have said previously, the Brexit voters, some of whom who are my friends and neighbours are highly educated, have held top professional jobs and travelled widely - in Europe and beyond Europe. Not elite but certainly not put upon and ignored.

I suppose it is easy to label someone who does not agree with your point of view as uneducated and ignorant.
I also said that I may not agree with them 100% but we can agree to disagree.

Not phrased correctly, I should have 'some Brexit voters' not the Brexit voters

I am sure that not all Remain voters are highly educated and of the professional classes.

This smacks of intellectual snobbery to me.

OK put "majority" in front of Brexiters. But how ever much you reject the notion of the Brexiter profile, you are wrong in suggesting that the majority were well educated with a reasonable stake in society.

It is a matter of fact and certainly not a subjective snobbery as you suggest. May recognises this fact which is why her rhetoric has clearly suggested such.

OK whitewave I could put majority in front if you wish, although I have no exact statistics in front of me.

Perhaps the only Brexiters I know are educated and all very thoughtful; however I didn't trek through the country to ask everyone's opinions so my experience may be subjective.

Once again Jamila thank you.We voted differently but you couldn't have summed up my response to Whitewave more eloquently.
Absolutely in no way do I endorse Trump or want to see him elected but the sweeping statement by about 'our Brexit ' voters has me posting again because it shows the deep seated stereotyping of those who voted Leave by some - and by no means all Remain voters.On so many levels our household would be classed as middle class I guess.DH and I voted leave.2 DCs voted remain. One leave.Amongst our friends the votes have pretty much reflected the national trend.Some Leave some Remain.So please stop generalising.
Quick word Jamila. Saw your post on another thread about how you have rolled with the punches over the years with redundancies ,recessions and tougher times and can identify with that.You sound very pragmatic .
I count my blessings that after yet another killing spree in Munich my family are safe and well tonight,and living in a democratic society where we can agree to disagree hopefully with respect for each other.

No jalima I didn't suggest your comments were subjective. I simply rejected the notion that mine were.

Of course not 100% came under that category, and I can't understand why you have such difficulty in accepting that the less well off whose life chances are more Iimited and for whom the global capitalist system is not working to their advantage should
reject what they see as being the result of this elitist system. That is exactly what is happening in the States. If those in power don't recognise this then we are in for a very rocky road indeed.

Washerwoman
DH and I are probably both pragmatists, go with what has been dealt and try to make the best of it.
His DM had a very hard time during and after the war, bringing up her boys.
My family never had much but DM always had aspirations and DF was staunch Labour so fairly lively discussions went on in our house!

It is just that our friends who voted to leave are the ones with PhDs, have held top positions in industry, in the media and working for charity. We are more lowly (although with good qualifications) and I voted Remain.
It is not a good idea to stereotype people by how they vote.

As I have posted before, I find Trump truly scary. But then I found George W scary too, and look what happened when he became President.

You are using the word stereotype incorrectly. The word should be categorize. It has nothing to do with pejorative connotations. It is essential to have this information to work out people's motives in voting.

No, I don't reject it whitewave and I accept your amended statement, and it may be that that ^the less well off whose life chances are more Iimited and for whom the global capitalist system is not working to their advantage should
reject what they see as being the result of this elitist system.^ Combined with the type of people I know who are educated to PhD level, have worked as top executives in industry, the media, have really thought about the consequences of their decision, it is no wonder that Brexit was carried by the majority.

But - I have not travelled up and down the country conducting a poll, I only have experience of people I know in my area, which in fact did vote to Remain.

You are using the word stereotype incorrectly. The word should be categorize. It has nothing to do with pejorative connotations
Noted and understood

Blimey all this because I commented on the voting profile of Trumps supporters and likened them to the Brexit supporters.
Feels like walking through mud.

which is what I was doing yesterday literally, not metaphorically.
Treacle would be better whitewave, at least you could lick some of it.

No, not really; I doubt very much that my friends and neighbours would vote for Trump.
Heaven forbid, what a thought!

What happened to my previous post, why is there a lot of blank space?

OK Whitewave. I guess that was directed at me as I used the word stereotype. I stand corrected.Sorry but I'm not educated to degree level.Just 3 A levels and I'd like to think a big dollop of common sense.
DH has a degree in Business with economics.Leave voter.DD in Education.Remain.DD in Sociology.Remain.Other DD 2 degrees including International Relations and she's a Leave voter.Does that help to categorise us all ?

No blank spaces on my posts from your good self.

Oops categorize even.

wash. It wasn't meant personally. The pair of you picked me up and critiqued what I said. I replied, giving as clear an explanation as I could. Nothing I said was directed at a personal level - I never argue on here at a personal level as I don't know to whom I'm talking and would not want to hurt.

It's OK, I voted remain, but am less academically qualified than my Brexit friends (Phds, Masters) who are quite scornful of my reasoning.

Cor blimey o'Riley!!!!!
I don't care what you voted or what academic qualifications you've obtained
It has nothing to do with anything!!!!