So much anger against older people

Now we perhaps are beginning to understand what it must be like to be a member of a minority group and the anger that is heaped on them at times.

But the young know EVERYTHING, they are never wrong. They don't even have to cast a vote to achieve a majority for what THEY want to happenin any election - it is their God-given right always to have their way. They reckon the zimmer frames, hearing aids and bent arthritic backs of the over-45s would hinder them in a rumble.

The best scapegoats are those least able or likely to fight back against their attackers. The older generation probably seem less likely to punch their attackers on the nose and kick their arses into kingdom come. And all people over 45 are exactly the same, aren't they? They are OLD.

They have never heard that "We are none of us infallible - not even the youngest of us." William Hepworth Thompson

Perhaps it will have taught those who didn't bother to vote but are jumping on the 'blame' bandwagon a valuable lesson about actually using their enfranchisement next time!

There was a demonstration of youngsters outside the Welsh Assembly today blaming us "oldies" for Brexit. I must admit I think it's good to see them so interested in the process of democracy in action, even if they don't like the result much.

Yes, Gettingonabit, hopefully everyone will feel more engaged next time there is an opportunity to vote and that would be a definite plus.
Am just watching the news and the rise in hate crime against immigrants is shameful. Bullies picking on those who can't defend themselves. I wouldn't want to be an incomer to this country right now.

This is the kind of thinking that comes of being reared as little princess and princesses. The world has to continue to revolve around them ... as their parents have pandered to their every whim.

Well said Anya

Of course all us 'oldies' are not all the things listed in the OP, but neither are all youngsters the things listed in all the rest of the posts. It is lazy discourse to use the same fallacious arguments as your opponent. The result of this unnecessary referendum is division between many different groups of people, fostered by the media who revel in all these miserable stories. We should rise above it and show that with age does come some wisdom, and also show compassion to those younger than us who have an uncertain future ahead of them (note, I said uncertain, not destroyed).

Dramatictessa. Why do you feel my comments are fallacious? I agree, we should rise above it, etc, but does that mean we can't discuss things here, which is what your rather patronising comment suggests?

I didn't say yours were casawan, I said the other posts were.

Actually, not all the other posts - lazy discourse from me there!

Anya has put it in a nutshell.

I can't believe how many young people being interviewed have announced quite bluntly that anyone over 60 is going to die before long without giving a thought to the feelings of their own grandparents who have probably lavished them with love and attention, not to mention MONEY!!

My teacher daughter would so agree with you there Anya.

Oh boo hoo " I wanted to go and study in Italy and now because of you I can't"
Well I wanted to be a wren. But because I had to leave school before I was 15 that was a no no.
Life's a bitch and then you die. Get over it and yourselves ( that's to the youngsters, not GNs)

There are some very annoying old people out there though. I saw two old ladies this morning saying how marvellous it is that we can have the Good Old Days back. I was longing to ask if they wanted children back down coal mines or would they be happy just re opening the workhouses.

Tough love, eh Petra ......it may just work!

Well my 94 year old mum voted remain ,and her reason was for the young ones.I'm not popular with her at the moment for my leave vote,and she's very vocal with her opinions. Good for her,she has every right.But as I have quietly reminded her so have I and please respect that.Yet she feels compelled to tell me I've let the young ones down.Repeatedly.We have 3 DCs -2 voted remain,one voted leave - and we have had many discussions where we all agree being a united happy family comes before any political differences of opinion. They understand life sometimes gets tough,and we've tried to instill a can do attitude in them and I'm immensely proud of their work ethic.Straight from university having part time jobs all the way through,and doing whatevery job it took to get a rung on the ladder of work.Even the two that voted remain concede there really was no way to know what future years in the EU would bring,but would have preferred to stay in.But they hate all the negativity sloshing around ,and think a)more young people should have voted b)everyone needs to muck in and find a way forward.
They also acknowledge it's not a decision we took lightly,and with a very modest private pension and goalposts moved regarding our state pension it's not just their future but ours that will have ups and downs.As has our past,losing our family business in the early 90s was an early lesson in life's not always fair.
I'm having to seriously bite my tongue at the moment as a young relative, who only 3 years ago was stressing about not being able to find a permanent job ,has just decided to take a sabbatical from a full time job with prospects to go travelling.Both her siblings have done the same after only a few years out of university and bank of mum and dad have had to fund them on return for quite some time.Yet their parents have also berated me for putting there future security at risk!

And some wanted to give 16 year old the vote!

On Woman's hour last week a group of younger women were asked who they thought should be the next leader of the Conservative party: one of them answered: Chuka Umunna !!! Says it all doesn't it?

It is very odd how so many people don't seem to live in the real world and have no idea now much work has been done and how much has been gone without to achieve all that the older generation have.

It is sad that young people think life is so very short that those who are 60 will be dead soon! In the area where we are now living there are a great many people in their nineties living fulfilled and busy lives and enjoying good health. (I am hoping it is something in the air! )

As for not allowing anyone over 45 to vote that is really laughable when it is often only in that middle age bracket that reality has kicked in to such a degree that common sense prevails at last! On the contrary given the extraordinary behaviour witnessed in the past few days it might be more to the point to rewind to where the vote was only attained at age 21 since it certainly does not seem to be valued as it should.

Washerwoman- I love you mum's style. Give her my very best x

I am fed up of almost 100% of out voters shown on the bbc are old people saying how great it is to get their country back and how great life used to be. I feel like making a badge saying I'm 67 and voted in!

Anya do you have any children? And if do how were they raised ( ref your spoilt children comment).

The world has gone crazy, I looked at a flat today, I liked it because it's on the edge of Dartmoor,but I was told.Because it is being built near a kiddies park all the windows will have to be frosted glass,except one.In case a pedaphil,peadif,pervert buys it.
I was absolutely struck dumb. I am very serious,this is true.My DIL phoned the estate agents.