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So much anger against older people

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Casawan Mon 27-Jun-16 18:00:35

Why is so much blame being heaped on the older generation? Apparently we all voted for Brexit, are all too thick to make an informed choice, are all uneducated, we had an unfair share of the vote, are living on undeserved, generous pensions that are bankrupting the country, are living in houses which should be taken away and given to the younger generation, are ruining the NHS, are all racists, are all greedy, selfish and a general drain on society with nothing whatsoever to offer. I heard one 18 yr old suggest, unchallenged, in a TV interview that anyone over 45 should not be allowed to vote. So many fractures in the UK. I just hope they all heal before this anger turns to something much nastier.

Marmark1 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:51:16

Well said,Anya.

Anya Tue 28-Jun-16 07:49:33

And, the behaviour of some adults after this referendum is no example on how to take something not going your way.

Yes, I get that people are angry, and disappointed. Some have said it's like a bereavement. Certainly I'm seeing denial, anger, bargaining.... but as adults we have to deal with that in a mature way, not by spitting abuse and vitriol at those around us.

I've watched people who are genuinely bereaved behave with dignity and strength when dealing with the worst that life could throw at them. I was proud that I had raised my son to be the man he was when his world imploded.

Alea Tue 28-Jun-16 07:46:34

A sobering thought whitewave
#blameCameronandnotyourGranny

Marmark1 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:45:36

No,I know they're not all like it.Mine are still babies,but my great niece and nephew are not like.

Marmark1 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:40:59

And you would trust them to vote?
I want it! I want it! I want it! Then five minutes later I'm fed up with it.

Anya Mon 27-Jun-16 23:19:19

Yes, Jevive I have children and grandchildren. They were raised as part of the family, not brought up to believe they were more important than any other member of the family.

Same with the grandchildren.

Why do you ask? Have you not been aware just how over child-centred this country has become in the last 30 odd years? Life has to revolve around the little dears.

Luckily not all families are like that, but the sense of entitlement that some youngsters have these days.....

Marmark1 Mon 27-Jun-16 22:45:34

The world has gone crazy, I looked at a flat today, I liked it because it's on the edge of Dartmoor,but I was told.Because it is being built near a kiddies park all the windows will have to be frosted glass,except one.In case a pedaphil,peadif,pervert buys it.
I was absolutely struck dumb. I am very serious,this is true.My DIL phoned the estate agents.

jevive73 Mon 27-Jun-16 22:06:45

Anya do you have any children? And if do how were they raised ( ref your spoilt children comment).

jevive73 Mon 27-Jun-16 22:01:55

I am fed up of almost 100% of out voters shown on the bbc are old people saying how great it is to get their country back and how great life used to be. I feel like making a badge saying I'm 67 and voted in!

granjura Mon 27-Jun-16 21:54:11

Washerwoman- I love you mum's style. Give her my very best x

Synonymous Mon 27-Jun-16 21:46:46

It is very odd how so many people don't seem to live in the real world and have no idea now much work has been done and how much has been gone without to achieve all that the older generation have. confused

It is sad that young people think life is so very short that those who are 60 will be dead soon! In the area where we are now living there are a great many people in their nineties living fulfilled and busy lives and enjoying good health. (I am hoping it is something in the air! smile)

As for not allowing anyone over 45 to vote that is really laughable when it is often only in that middle age bracket that reality has kicked in to such a degree that common sense prevails at last! On the contrary given the extraordinary behaviour witnessed in the past few days it might be more to the point to rewind to where the vote was only attained at age 21 since it certainly does not seem to be valued as it should. hmm

petra Mon 27-Jun-16 21:22:40

On Woman's hour last week a group of younger women were asked who they thought should be the next leader of the Conservative party: one of them answered: Chuka Umunna !!! Says it all doesn't it?

rosesarered Mon 27-Jun-16 21:14:03

And some wanted to give 16 year old the vote!

Washerwoman Mon 27-Jun-16 21:12:14

Well my 94 year old mum voted remain ,and her reason was for the young ones.I'm not popular with her at the moment for my leave vote,and she's very vocal with her opinions. Good for her,she has every right.But as I have quietly reminded her so have I and please respect that.Yet she feels compelled to tell me I've let the young ones down.Repeatedly.We have 3 DCs -2 voted remain,one voted leave - and we have had many discussions where we all agree being a united happy family comes before any political differences of opinion. They understand life sometimes gets tough,and we've tried to instill a can do attitude in them and I'm immensely proud of their work ethic.Straight from university having part time jobs all the way through,and doing whatevery job it took to get a rung on the ladder of work.Even the two that voted remain concede there really was no way to know what future years in the EU would bring,but would have preferred to stay in.But they hate all the negativity sloshing around ,and think a)more young people should have voted b)everyone needs to muck in and find a way forward.
They also acknowledge it's not a decision we took lightly,and with a very modest private pension and goalposts moved regarding our state pension it's not just their future but ours that will have ups and downs.As has our past,losing our family business in the early 90s was an early lesson in life's not always fair.
I'm having to seriously bite my tongue at the moment as a young relative, who only 3 years ago was stressing about not being able to find a permanent job ,has just decided to take a sabbatical from a full time job with prospects to go travelling.Both her siblings have done the same after only a few years out of university and bank of mum and dad have had to fund them on return for quite some time.Yet their parents have also berated me for putting there future security at risk!

rosesarered Mon 27-Jun-16 20:57:26

Tough love, eh Petra grin......it may just work!

Deedaa Mon 27-Jun-16 20:50:39

There are some very annoying old people out there though. I saw two old ladies this morning saying how marvellous it is that we can have the Good Old Days back. I was longing to ask if they wanted children back down coal mines or would they be happy just re opening the workhouses.

petra Mon 27-Jun-16 20:19:11

Oh boo hoo " I wanted to go and study in Italy and now because of you I can't"
Well I wanted to be a wren. But because I had to leave school before I was 15 that was a no no.
Life's a bitch and then you die. Get over it and yourselves ( that's to the youngsters, not GNs)

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 27-Jun-16 20:05:36

My teacher daughter would so agree with you there Anya.

merlotgran Mon 27-Jun-16 20:02:57

Anya has put it in a nutshell.

I can't believe how many young people being interviewed have announced quite bluntly that anyone over 60 is going to die before long without giving a thought to the feelings of their own grandparents who have probably lavished them with love and attention, not to mention MONEY!!

dramatictessa Mon 27-Jun-16 19:51:50

Actually, not all the other posts - lazy discourse from me there!

dramatictessa Mon 27-Jun-16 19:50:04

I didn't say yours were casawan, I said the other posts were.

Casawan Mon 27-Jun-16 19:30:06

Dramatictessa. Why do you feel my comments are fallacious? I agree, we should rise above it, etc, but does that mean we can't discuss things here, which is what your rather patronising comment suggests?

dramatictessa Mon 27-Jun-16 19:18:40

Of course all us 'oldies' are not all the things listed in the OP, but neither are all youngsters the things listed in all the rest of the posts. It is lazy discourse to use the same fallacious arguments as your opponent. The result of this unnecessary referendum is division between many different groups of people, fostered by the media who revel in all these miserable stories. We should rise above it and show that with age does come some wisdom, and also show compassion to those younger than us who have an uncertain future ahead of them (note, I said uncertain, not destroyed).

Crow Mon 27-Jun-16 19:10:03

Well said Anya

Anya Mon 27-Jun-16 18:50:37

This is the kind of thinking that comes of being reared as little princess and princesses. The world has to continue to revolve around them ... as their parents have pandered to their every whim.